their economic agenda was torpedoed by joe manchin in december and they are trying to cobble together a smaller package and most of their social agenda is opposed by republicans. everything from a big minimum wage increase to this voting package. minimum wage changes. there's a lot of things democrats want to do and the opposition from kyrsten sinema and joe manchin in these cases currently has them sort of chasing their own tail instead of what they want to be doing, which is getting ready for the election, uniting, having accomplishments to sell to the voters and so on. you have got the president having a press conference this afternoon and he is, he's got a tough job, to, because he has got slumping poll ratings, people worried about inflation and his own party trying to figure out what they are going to do next. so, there is a lot going on. host: our final minute, here, can you just explain the calendar here and how it plays into the democrat agenda, this being an election year. how much time do democrats have to turn to something else and what are the options for them to turn to

it joe manchin's bill. he asked for time to put something together, that he thought made sense and thought that he could get people, republicans to support. he was given that time. and he did and now, he is supporting the filibuster that's a filibuster of his bill. so, the freedom to vote act is joe manchin's legislation. that stacey abrams endorsed, when he first proposed to. i followed her and supported the bill. and today, the president of the united states came out with a full endorsement of joe manchin's bill. so, it would seem to me, that joe manchin will be in support of his own legislation if he were to support changing the rules and removing the filibuster from the spell. >> it is such an important point, that this is joe manchin's compromised version of legislation that he did in pursuit of republican votes. and today, when asked about the possibility of changing the rules, he still seems to think that he should pursue republican votes on that to. let's listen to what he had to say today. >> we ne

we will continue to pressure joe manchin. at the end of the day, what we all have to keep in mind, activists, elected officials, and media, is joe manchin says the thing he says because he thinks it will discourage people from calling him out. part of their job is to vote. and part of what i'm glad senator schumer is doing is he's going to put this up for a vote. he's going to force manchin and sinema to have to vote this down, to do whatever they're going to do, but sometimes he says the things that he says because he doesn't want to be in that situation. let's keep in mind that a few finish ago, he wrote an op-ed saying we would never be at this point because he would never vote for the people act, and next thing you know because of pressure, he came up with compromises that led to the freedom to vote act. he can say one thing one day, change his mind, and be forced into a different position another day. that's part of the purpose of movement and organizing and that's what we have been doing. >> cliff albright, thank you fo

and what joe manchin chose to say was, nothing. nothing. the way he said it, was to simply say, we're still talking. everyone is talking. the way everyone in the senate reads that kind of response means that it is still possible, just possible, to get joe manchin's vote. nbc news is reporting, and president biden will do something that most presidents don't do, he will attend tomorrow senate democratic caucus lunch, to press the case in person, with all of the democratic senators for changing the senate rules, to pass voting rights. joe biden has attended literally thousands of those senate luncheons as a senator, no one knows how to work that room better than joe biden. tomorrow senate lunch meeting is the most important one of joe biden's 45 year career in washington. tonight's last word is next. how not to be a hero: because that's the last thing they need you to be. you don't have to save the day. you just have to navigate the world so that a foster child isn't doing it solo. you just have to stand up for a kid who isn't fluent in burea

and this morning senator schumer and nine democratic senators met with senator joe manchin for an hour to urge him to support that rules change. after that meeting, joe manchin appeared to be undecided about supporting a rules change. >> what'd you make. president's speech last night? >> it was a good speech. he gave a good speech. >> reporter: did it change your opinion at all on the senate rules changes? >> we're talking. >> he understands. we all understand how the senate works. >> i know what you're thinking but that is not the same old same old from joe manchin. joe manchin knows that the president of the united states and chuck schumer and everyone in the senate are now hanging on every single word he says and every word that he does not say, and the most important word joe manchin did not say today is no. when garrett haake asked him if joe biden's speech changed his opinion on a senate rules change, joe manchin could have easily said, no, didn't change my mind and that would have been very bad news for the president and the democrats. but joe manchin could have also said yes, i

and no one is coming to the rescue because of joe manchin. the federal government can only help if congress acts. if congress passes legislation to let the federal government establish federal mineral rights when it comes to the election. joe manchin, and kyrsten sinema who are working with republican senators to stop that from happening. senator manchin says, don't worry, the government will fix it somehow. as if it's not the government who is blocking people from voting. the republican state government who is blocking people from voting in the states. and as if he is not the government. as if he is not the reason the federal government can step in to fix this. the federal government could step in and fix this, it is those senators working with republicans who are stopping that from happening. in the state of georgia today, where republican leadership has also radically restricted the voting rights of residents, they have moved one of their own officials into per the shin so they can use the power that they have given themselves to -- have a

but this is a moment in time that joe manchin has to make the decision. number one, politically, is there a reason to believe that he could win re-election here in 2024 in this deep red state? if not, this is the time to help democrats pass these types of reforms. but if you take joe manchin's word and the argument that potentially republicans, when they gain the majority could pass their own legislative majorities my passing the filibuster, you've got to take into account, this is this voter here, this centrist democrat here, was telling me, you've got to then believe republicans that once they have the majority, that they will not further diminish the filibuster themselves, when they find it convenient. which is exactly what happened when merrick garland was put up for the supreme court post. and that's why for years to come we'll be talking about this moment and what joe manchin's ultimate decision here in the year of 2022 is on these voting rights reforms. >> vaughn hillyard, carol lee, and ana palmer, thank you very much for being with me now. with m

or joe manchin, who has been all over the map. he's impossible to work with because no one understands what he wants. it's just a really tough political reality right now. a couple of senators were able to be called the shots. >> and that's a very conservative sound, as you mentioned manchin and sinema. as we take a break from this discussion, i have to say that he did not attack joe manchin and sinema, he took a dig at bernie sanders. i find it bizarre. he did not go after manchin and sinema. what's left? there's nothing left to lose. >> i agree with that. senator sanders has been a impeccable partner with this. he's been pushing the agenda harder than the president has. he's been meeting with workers. now we need to say, we need to talk to manchin and sinema. i think he's just so afraid of the word socialism for some reason. or no good deed goes unpunished. it's quite unfortunate that he continues to bash senator sanders in that way. he has been tremendously helpful to this president. >> maybe we should have the former chair of

no one is coming to the rescue because of joe manchin. the federal government can only help in those instances if congress acts, if congress passes legislation to let the federal government step in and establish federal minimum standards in terms of voting rights in the election -- and the administration of elections. it's joe manchin and kyrsten sinema in the senate who are working with republican senators to stop that from happening. senator manchin says, don't worry. he is sure the government will fix it somehow. as if it's not the government that's blocking people from voting, the republican-led state government that's blocking people from voting in these states. as if he is not the government. as if he is not the reason that the federal government can't step in to fix this stuff. a federal government could step in and fix this. it's those two senators working with republicans that are blocking that from happening. the great state of georgia today, where the republican leadership in that state has this past year radically restricted t

to be joe manchin these days. wooed and vilified right now. it's a full court press to get him to open up his ways from oprah winfrey to now a fellow democratic who is quite close with him. after this. ♪ feel stuck with credit card debt? ♪ move your high-interest debt to a sofi personal loan. earn $10 just for viewing your rate — and get your money right. ♪ >> neil: oh, to be joe manchin. you have bill clinton, you have barack obama, oprah, all trying to woo him over to who knows, build back better or more openness on busting the filibuster. you name it. a who's who of democratic luminaries trying to get the west virginia senator closer to their way of thinking. kaylee mcghee white joins us. talk about pressure. what do you make of that? >> i can't imagine oprah win free convincing joe manchin of anything. he and kyrsten sinema don't want to abolish the filibuster to pass democrat's proposed voting rights bill. i don't think they'll budge on that. >> neil: a lot of this is borne of the reaction the senator got in the white house when h

host: let me go back to build back that are and respond to senator joe manchin. he did a call it interview with west virginia metro knows and this is what he said why he opposes the child tax reddit. -- credit. >> nothing in there about holding people accountable. there is no work requirement. there is no means testing step do you believe people making two and 400 thousand dollars will get the child tax credit? the price would go up step we have children now living with grandparents and with the assistance we give for the welfare system, don't you think we should make sure the money follows the child so if the grandparents are raising the child, they are getting the money and not the parents. so many things we can check this off that they won't talk about so we have been way for -- far apart so philosophically. host: what you say to him? guest: first of all, often senators are not close to those who are poor. they don't see their faces or their lives and when you are closer to those families, you see the knee that is there. i am not against means testing in terms

the line and he'll do it by focusing on things joe manchin can go along with, my even get help from mitt romney if they try to do something with the child tax credit for people with children. you might also see the left, progressive left going along with it because they realize come november if they don't have anything to show for two years in office, they will be in trouble. paul: kyle, what about the other priority, voting rights? national election laws and all 50 states trying to get through but again, they will have to bring the filibuster because they can't use reconciliation so they will have to get through manchin and sinema and others who don't want to do that, is there any chance that happens? >> i think it looks unlikely. chuck schumer is the majority leader said he plans to hold a vote in january on some version of hr one, the massive bill, one part would be a requirement state count mail ballots that arrive a week late and if they don't have postmarks on them, they can be counted even if the voter stated, stated them on time before the election but she doesn't support breakin

the barrier to changing than joe manchin is. joe biden has to push them continuously, privately as well as publicly. >> congresswoman, i want to turn to comments from jim clyburn on senator manchin's support for the filibuster. he says, quote, the 15th amendment was not a bipartisan vote. it was a single party vote that gave black people the right to vote. manchin and others need to stop saying that because that gives me great pain for somebody to imply that the 15th amendment to the constitution is not legitimate because it did not have bipartisan buy-in. what is senator manchin missing in his defense of the filibuster in the name of bipartisanship, debbie? >> yeah. good evening and happy 2022. we've gotten through the first week so far, and let me say that it gives me great optimism to know that president biden is going to be addressing this fundamental issue. there's nothing more critical to our democracy right now than protecting the right and the freedom for every american citizen to be able to vote and for their vote to be

he and joe manchin are pretty good friends. i'm suspecting they're in communication at least i hope they are and i believe joe manchin is proud of his record in west virginia and the country and i don't believe he'd like to see that record going down in history as one who out of tradition set out to deny basic rights to american people. now we've had that to happen in the past. straw therman in 1957 set the filibuster record against a civil rights bill that wasn't a bill, it was just a statement of policy i dovnlt think joe manchin would want to see that for himself so i am holding on to hope that these two men will get-togethers and in the final analysis will find a way for us to go forward with this legislation we know -- >> you know. >> -- exceptions have been made for the budget because of reconciliation. reconciliation is a term more accurately appied to constitutional issued then the budget. so i think in the name of reconciliation, we're going to get to where we need to be. >> you know, hope is good but hope and strategy

vote act is joe manchin's legislation. am i to understand that joe manchin is going to protect or subject his legislation to a filibuster? their filibustering his bill. the house bill is already been defeated and the president has endorsed his bill. stacey abrams in georgia endorsed joe manchin's bill, and so have i. but now, joe manchin seems to be walking away from his own bill. so, what's the issue here? >> have you talked to -- to -- i mean, do you talk to senator manchin personally about -- about this? >> oh, not about his bill. i did talk to him for maybe on hour some time ago over this issue. and joe manchin and i have known each other for a long time. so, talking to joe is no -- is nothing unusual for me. >> chairman clyburn, i really appreciate your time tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you very much for having me. >>> well coming up, as mentioned at the top of the program, dr. anthony fauci on the state of play with the omicron surge in full force. also, his confrontation today with senator rand paul and this

that's not who joe manchin responds do, i know i switched of topics there. i grew tim that there are 99 other senators, we need to be pressured to make this thing come home for joe biden in his agenda. >> i invited you switch to switch topics, and to your point, it wasn't needed to to offer that quote. tim, the times also did a focus group with democratic voters. and when asked, how would you characterize the health of our democracy? they said things like, in the icu. it's a pandemic, and it's in critical condition, poisoned. are these voters more in touch with the urgency of the moment then senator manchin, or senator sinema. >> i think they're really in touch with the moment. i think that they are right, i think the problem is, if you have. i'll put cinnamon a different category, she represents a purple state, i don't think she has a good political excuse on this front. if you look at manchin, rather than cycle analyze him. the question is, in a state that voted 70% for donald trump. that group does not have any urgency about the end of democracy. that gro

senate passes back to the house in terms of build back better act, and whatever joe biden and joe manchin negotiate, whatever they agree to, i will support that. >> okay. congressman ted lieu, appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. >>> coming up next, the fda just made a big move on booster shots as the messaging mess over covid continues with cases still spiking. and testing still hard to come by. you're watching "meet the press daily". press daily" voltaren is a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel for powerful arthritis pain relief. voltaren, the joy of movement. healthier starts when excuses end. what? it's too windy. right now at cvs, get $10 in extrabucks rewards when you spend $30 on select wellness support products. with this offer, there's no room for excuses. superpowers from a spider bite? i could use some help showing the world how liberty mutual customizes their car insurance. ow! i'm ok! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ only in theaters december 17th. [ kimberly ] before clearchoice, my dental health was so bad i would be in a lo

joe manchin of west virginia, jon ossoff, jackie rosen, kyrsten sinema. what do you make of this public crit criticism from democrats of biden. >> it's not -- if the republican party has a leader that is not always loved but is always feared, democrats have a president who is loved and he's -- joe biden is beloved in this party but he's not feared. what you're seeing now is a party that is willing to defy this president on his worst week, kick him when he's down and that's a very bad sign for where joe biden is politically. only one way for him to go now, which is up, but if you want a friend in politics in d.c., get a dog. >> scott jennings, the white house is walking back to a degree president biden's comments earlier this week comparing opponents of election reform and filibuster changes to pass election reform to jefferson davis and bull connor and george wallace. here's jen psaki today. >> everybody listening to that speech who is speaking on the level, as my mother would say, would note that he was not comparing them as humans. he was comparing the

and i should remind our viewers, to be fair to joe manchin, he has voted for every single one of joe biden's judicial nominees so far. harry, let me bring you in now. as pbs spoke about the retirement back in september to justice breyer. let's listen. >> there are many different considerations and i have not yet made up my mind just exactly when. but i don't want to die on the court. and before then i would like to retire. >> a lot of liberals, a lot of people on the left, raised the fact that the time that he need to step down sooner rather than later. they remember what happened with ruth baiter ginsburg. how much pressure do you think he was under? you know the man. >> moderate, but i think he was determined to avoid the pressure and if anything it was a disincentive because he did not want to make it look like the pressure was making him step down. here's a big institutionalist for the court and does not want the court in general, or him in particular, to look like it's ways to the political winds. my guess was this was always his plan. he knew -- and i don't know that personally

and joe manchin and i have known each other for a long time. so, talking to joe is no -- is nothing unusual for me. >> chairman clyburn, i really appreciate your time tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you very much for having me. >>> well, coming up, as mentioned at the top of the program, dr. anthony fauci on the state of play with the omicron surge in full force. also, his confrontation today with senator rand paul and this guy, senator roger marshal of kansas, who wanted to know whether he would disclose his finances, something dr. fauci says he's been doing for the last 35 years. >> where would we find it? >> all you have to do is ask for it. i -- you are so misinformed, it's extraordinary. >> dr. fauci joins us shortly. >>> and the house select committee issues more subpoenas, as at least some republicans are starting to say, out loud, what they all know to be true in private -- the election was not stolen. select committee member and republican adam kinzinger joins us, ahead. does it worry me? absolutely. sensodyne sensitivity & gum gi

joe manchin a long-time democrat, a former governor. it's really hard to understand or see how somebody could represent west virginia as a democrat and their name not be joe manchin. my guess is that a lot of democratic activists think that senator sinema's not the only person that can win a u.s. senate seat from the democratic party in the state of arizona, particularly in 2024. >> okay. stay with me, we're going to update things on capitol hill and the white house and come right back to you my friend. thank you so much. as we go to capitol hill where democratic lawmakers have not given up on pushing through voting rights legislation after those senate republicans and those two democrats blocked a sweeping pair of bills. let's go to nbc's julie tsirkin following that story on capitol hill for us. what is the game plan now? >> reporter: look, alex, democrats haven't given up yet because they've spent weeks on both sides of pennsylvania avenue, democratic leadership telling their voters and democrats around the country unless they pass t

a lot of talk about joe manchin, kyrsten sinema. maybe you can take us behind the scenes and put a little nuance on it. joe manchin has privately said to many people there's a $1.75 trillion deal out there. i'm not going to do 20 things, but if we do universal pre-k, that's historic. i'm there for that. if we limit and fully fund one or two things instead of ten things, there's a deal there. and also on voting rights, and at least talking to republicans, he's talking to democrats and he thinks he's put together a package that will do what the john lewis voting rights act does, that will guarantee every single legal citizen a constitutional right to vote and will give them redress if they think anybody is standing in their way from that. what can you tell us about those two efforts that are going on behind the scenes? >> so, first on voting rights, i just do not see ten republican votes for anything that will adequately protect people's right to vote or prevent republicans from stealing the next election. why is that? because i think

that this would change the minds of joe manchin. but it was a speech designed to really make clear where he stands. he said i'm tired of being quiet. it was his speech directed directly at the base support. he's been accused of being too quiet on this. he talked about his love of the senate and also talked about the flexibility of the senate. specifically pointing out that last month the senators came together to change rules temporarily to raise the nation's debt ceiling. and he compared the ability of when the senate wants to do something, they can indeed make a change. he talked about how democracy is certainly as important as restoring the full faith and credit of the government. jake, it's unclear, in fact, unlikely, at least from my ear, listening to this speech on this historic sacred grounds here, no matter how much history is behind it, that this would change the minds of joe manchin. now the question is, can he be persuaded ed in some other way? can they come together and get some type of smaller act done. he talked about

pass the joe manchin freedom to vote act. guarantee safe, secure and free elections for all americans. the world is watching us and now is the time to stand up for our democracy. ms. sewell: hi. i'm congresswoman terri sewell and i proudly represent alabama's seventh district which includes the cities of birmingham, selma and montgomerie. it was in my hometown of selma 56 years ago where john lewis and the foot soldiers shead blood on a bridge for the equal right of all americans to vote. but as we know, old battles have become new again. as state legislatures across this country erect deliberate barriers to the ballot box. trying to silence a certain group of people. these new laws may not require us to count how many jelly beans are in a jar, but modern day voter suppression is no less pernicious. yesterday i was honored to join president biden and vice president harris and our leader of the congressional black caucus, joyce beatty, as the president spoke of an urgent need to protect the sacred right to vote. i applaud the

that's simply not who joe manchin responds to. i know i switched topics there, but i agree with tim there's 99 other senators who need to be pressured to make this thing come home for joe biden and his agenda. >> i invited you to switch topics and, to your point, it was indeed a dude who offered that quote. tim, the "times" did a focus group with democratic voters. when asked how would you characterize the health of our democracy, they said things like, in the icu, it's a pandemic and it's in critical condition. poisoned. are these voters more in touch with the urgency of the moment than senator manchin, senator sinema? >> i think they're really in touch with the moment. you know, i think that they are right. i think the problem is if you have -- i'll put sinema in a different category because she erupts purple state. i don't think she has good political excuse on this front. if you're looking at manchin, rather than psychoanalyzed him, the that group doesn't have an urgency about the end of democracy. that group has support for a

watch. >> god bless joe manchin. i can tell you how many of my supporters tell me too tell joe manchin they are praying for him as a witness at the democrats are abusing him, so that's not the way to get someone on your side, that's for sure so i appreciate the fact that joe manchin stood by his pledge not to blow up the senate, eliminate the filibuster. he's concerned about inflation, as am i. maria: joining me right now to talk about what gets done, if anything, is washington staff writer matthew. matthew, good to see you. your thoughts on where we are is build back better getting the walk-- dead in the water at this point do you think democrats will take another stab to change it so goes back to the house and then the senate? >> good morning and things or having me. i think democrats should look to their favorite musical "hamilton" and realize as they famously sing, you don't have the votes. i won't sing that this morning. the reality is that the democrats do not have the votes. joe manchin has said from the begin

in this case joe manchin is joe manchin -- is what joe manchin doing anti-democratic? no. look at the polls. look at the polls in his state. he is so much more popular than any other democrat would ever be in west virginia. in the latest ppp poll i think has him in the high 50s. the last poll i saw of kirsten sinema she is doing better in arizona than mark kelly. they're listening to their constituents. joe manchin would be the first to tell you, elect more democrats, stop relying on me, i represent west virginia. you know how this story is going to end. so i agree. they need to stop talking about taking those two out and talking about electing two or three more so they never need joe manchin or kirstin sinema's vote again. >> i guess it feels good to progressives to say, run joe manchin out of his seat. i don't think they would like who came after joe manchin if there were an open election in the state of west virginia. they might loose in the senate. the strategy is to elect more democrats, more senators, put them in state houses across the country and in the states you

joe manchin standing in the way of that. it has not passed yet, right? it has not passed yet, right? manchin said he won't vote for it as-is. how supportive would the president be of passing smaller versions or piecemeal versions of that? >> reporter: i would dispute your characterization as a big spending bill. it does not raise taxes on anybody making less than $400,000 a year. to call it big spending bill is a misnomer. is the president going to push forward on the priorities that he has laid without in build back better? yes, he believes it is fundamental to the ability to grow our economy, to get people back to work, to reduce the cost of things like prescription drugs and child care, which is exactly what this bill will do. it will reduce the cost of insulin for the mother who is trying to afford insulin for her child. that is for president biden not just a question of cost but a question of dignity. yes, he is going to continue to work with leaders in congress, continue to push forward. he believes this is critical to bringing down costs on the th

juanita, joe manchin, we talked about joe manchin a lot on the show, this network. he has responded positively so far to the supreme court story. but he still hasn't spoken about the build back better. i just spoke to chen psyche, she said that -- one reason why he might not like build back better, from cnbc, quote, republican billionaire ken long going donated to joe manchin's pack after senator opposed to biden's build back better act. we know a lot of rich folks have given mention money, and it's because he stood up to things like build back better. what is your reaction to that news? >> this should surprise no one, especially as we heard how those negotiations -- especially how mention unceremoniously went on fox network to say he just couldn't do it. to be rewarded by republicans of something that he is getting used to. i think also recognizing the other financial ties that tempered his ability to negotiate to build back better, especially the clean energy probe programs that were proposed. it pinpointed the fact that people, especially west virginians who need

hoyer: joe manchin indicated he supports much of the legislation. when you say it has been stalled since december, that is less than 30 days ago. you know the legislative process, rachael. it does not move for the most part at a high rate of speed. rachael: especially in the senate. rep. hoyer: especially in the senate. the american people elected 50 democrats and 50 republicans, and they have substantial differences. president biden asked the other day, what are they for. that is a good question americans ought to ask themselves. in my view, the republican agenda is you are on your own, whether it is on minimum wage, health care, women's health, whether it is violence against women, whether it is children in school. that is not an agenda that i think the american people are going to support. i think president biden is absolutely correct -- look at what they are for. they see what we are for, and we are working on build back better. i am the believe that build back better is going to pass. it won't pass if we send it to the senate, obviously. it wil

where senator joe manchin says he's not in talks with white house or top democrats on reviving the $2 trillion tax and social spending agenda. that leaves the administration's signature domestic initiative stalled. let's get the details with bruce einhorn. it was not that long ago that the possible non-passing of build back better was a huge issue for these markets. what does it look like now? what is biden's next step? bruce: dani, we are now in the new year and once again talking about joe manchin, the 50th vote in the senate. we need to keep in mind when joe manchin said there were no negotiations going on, he said at this time. we do know that the majority leader chuck schumer has been talking with joe manchin, was talking with them over the break about build back better. he was also talking to him about the voting rights bill that the democrats want to move forward. as far as what comes next, first, we know there's going to be a deadline january 17. that is the date chuck schumer has set for a vote in the senate, the voting rights bill. that -- the crucial thing there is will joe

vaughn, are constituents telling joe manchin they should change the rules? and what about their feelings about the other senator from that state, shelley moore capito? >> reporter: right, i think part of the back and forth there with garrett and joe manchin was telling because it was a conversation about the majority and what does the majority in the senate truly mean. i was talking to two gentlemen earlier who say they appreciated their senator was, quote, protecting the minority party's power. so what does that mean? the minority power is the republican party. these two individuals, they are self-described trump voters who have voted for joe manchin in the past and say they're watching closely to see to what extent does joe manchin team up with the rest of the democratic party to potentially upend the filibuster even if it's just for this one exception. i want to let you though, at the same time, hear from christopher smith, a longtime resident of charleston, because i posed the question to him. he considers himself a centrist democrat. i asked him, even i

senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema on board, all of this could not be more urgent, with at least 19 states passing laws to make it harder to vote last year. >> the threat to our democracy is so grave that we must find a way to pass these voting rights bills, debate them, vote, let the majority prevail. >> my girl kara lee joins us from washington, vaughn hillyard is in charleston, west virginia, and eugene daniels, people keep saying where's the plan, where's the plan? president biden doesn't have the power to make or pass laws. right? he can make an argument. he can use political capital, twist some arms, use his bully pulpit. he's doing that, so where do we go from here? >> you're right, steph. the president doesn't have a vote in any of this. his power here is in persuasion, and so far as you note, he has not managed to persuade any key democrats to change their minds in terms of getting rid of the filibuster. the white house says the president's going to be out there. he's going to continue to talk about this, use the bully pulpit as you noticed, and have conversations with s

matt: in terms of president biden's focus this week, is it really all about getting joe manchin back on side somehow? i don't want to say distracted, but is he perhaps going to be spending more of his time on covid as those numbers ramp-up? is he looking at what is going on in colorado after the wildfires there? what is the focus? jack: when it comes to the president's focus, i don't know if you would necessarily say he is distracted, but we have not heard any concrete news about him trying to be more involved right now in the congressional negotiations previously has been. that is really going to be more or less up to chuck schumer, joe manchin, and senate democrats to work out an alternate proposal because clearly, the president cannot just strong-arm senator manchin and get him onboard was something he does not support. matt: i mean, the reason i am thinking about the president talking director with m anchin is because on one of the talk shows, senator manchin said he really had a problem with white house staff, and made it clear, not with the president himself, but with the staff

one idea democrats are trying to pressure joe manchin on is to support a carve out. allow voting rights legislation to be approved by a simple majority, 51 senators, circumventing a filibuster. but when i asked joe manchin about that if he was open to this idea at all, he made clear he was not. >> let me just say to being open to a rules change that would create a nuclear option, it's a very, very difficult. it's a heavy lift. and the reason i say it's a heavy lift is that once you change a rule or have a carve out, i've always said this, any time there's a carve out, you eat the whole turkey. there's nothing left. but let's just see. the conversations are still ongoing. i've been talking to everybody. we've been having good conversations. >> now conversations are ongoing, jake, at this exact moment at chuck schumer's office. joe manchin is there at this moment talking with a handful of other democratic senators about whether there's any way forward to getting him on board. he said he's willing to talk, but getting to the point where democrats want him to go, to chan

joe manchin and krysten sinema threw cold water on the plan. let's set side the filibuster for a moment. the american government was created by and for white men. everyone else had to fight for the right to vote. after they won the right, there was push back. recall the jim crow laws and poll taxes and literacy tests and intimidation and violence. it is nice to think that is all in the past. history is a continuum. the design whose aim is not to encourage every qualified voter to vote, but impede those of suspected by where they live and where they are from and how much they make or the color of their skin to vote for one party or another. republicans are trying to prevent democrats from voting, to gain or maintain power. last year, 19 states enacted voter restriction laws over widespread voter fraud that did not exist. the 2020 election has been litigated and reviewed and audits have been done. none turned up widespread voter fraud. none. the issue is becoming central to the entire gop legislative agenda nationwide. in so far there is a gop le

we agreed to support senator joe manchin's bill. that is what this bill is. and we are finding some real issues trying to figure out why is it that when we decided to support his bill he seems to be supporting a filibuster of his own deal. that to us is very disconcerting. finally, i think all of us in the progressive black caucus are very understanding of our history. the 14th amendment gave us rights of due process. and equal access. but it was the 15th amendment took another memo to the constitution to give free slaves the right to vote. that amendment passed on a straight party line vote. so we take exception, grave exception if anybody us the legislation cannot have credibility unless it is bipartisan. you were saying that is about credibility. so we are asking all of our friends inside and outside the congress to be careful with that. that is not what history teaches us. and i am please to yield to chairman jefferson. >> thank you, thank you madam chair for your leadership and all of the members of the congressional black caucus. the right to vote is pr

democratic senator joe manchin says the party must do exactly that, start over. with us today to share their reporting and insights melanie zanono, al ebb burns of the "new york times" and cnn's m.j. lee. m.j., let's start with the white house and what we heard from the president. it will be weeks before we see if there's any evidence in the polling or the mood of the country that the president's alleged new way of doing things would pay a difference but it was striking to see him there at the white house not only celebrating this new semiconductor chip plant but rob portman, a republican senator was behind him along with sherrod brown the democratic senator. you don't see much of that in washington. >> yeah, you know, it's very, very clear that the white house and the president are trying to do something of a policy reset, but even though it is a new calendar year he has the same political problems, and i thought senator manchin's comments earlier this week were incredibly telling when he essentially said, look we can turn to some of these bigger agenda items wh

coming up on "the big sunday show" the big blow to joe biden, the other joe joe manchin is making it impossible to make biden get the build back better past, what it means providing in his agenda next. ♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ this is elodia. she's a recording artist. 1 of 10 million people that comcast has connected to affordable internet in the last 10 years. and this is emmanuel, a future recording artist, and one of the millions of students we're connecting throughout the next 10. through projectup, comcast is committing $1 billion so millions more students, past... and present, can continue to get the tools they need to build a future of unlimited possibilities. ♪ ♪. lisa: welcome back to "the big sunday show" the blow to president biden's agenda joe manchin is pulling his $1.8 trillion counter offer to the build back better plan. this was manchin back in december when he first said he would not support the bill on "fox news sunday". >> if i cannot go home and explain it to the people of west virginia i cannot vote for it, i cannot vote to continue with this piece of

joe manchin is talking about changing some of the rules. what rules is he talking about exactly? >> well, he's talking about changing rules that would allow the senate to function more smoothly. it would make it easier to debate bills, for example, but he hasn't embraced actually passing these bills with a simple majority vote. so there's been an asymmetry in tactics. whereas republicans at the state level have passed all of these anti-democracy measures through simple majority, party line votes. but joe manchin is saying you need a bipartisan supermajority in the senate to protect voting rights or to pass nearly any other piece of legislation. that created the odd situation where republicans can basically do anything they want to undermine democracy at the state level but democrats can't take any action to protect voting rights at the federal level because manchin and krysten sinema and others are supporting it. >> what about the threats from mitch mcconnell and i'll read you what he was saying today warning democrats about trying to change the filibuster. he said if my colleagu

you know, senator joe manchin was working last year to try to get ten republicans to support a voting rights legislation. he ultimately failed, but he does not believe in this filibuster carveout. he does not support it and he's been adamant about it. so it is an uphill climb. but that is not stopping negotiations behind closed doors, but the democratic caucus, most democratic senators want to see senator joe manchin and senator kyrsten sinema change their minds and continue to talk to them to convince them to support the rules change. take a listen to what some senators said yesterday about their optimism and why they support this rules change in the senate. >> a lot of my colleagues and myself are worried about, okay, if you change the filibuster, what happens the next time when somebody else is in the majority? well, the answer is if they're in the majority and they overreach, as long as the system is working, the voters can throw them out the next time. there is always an election in two years, but if the election itself is compromised, if that check is compromised, the system doe

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i hope that's what joe manchin does. dagen: what is joe biden, the president doing today? he's announcing today a plan to combat the market power of the giant conglomerates that dominate the meat and poultry processing. so again, the evil meat. i think jen psaki said that like a few weeks ago, referred to the evil -- or, you know, the insidious meat industry. so he's blaming corporations. that's what he's going to do. so what is that actually going to do for real inflation that's been caused by the run-away monetary policy from the fed and the run-away spending? >> i've got a grandson that does more than joe biden does to solve problems. joe biden takes no responsibility. joe biden and the democrats are causing this. i mean, look, companies want to service their customers. right. and they're competing. and they're competing for price, quality, service. stop beating up companies. reduce taxes, reduce regulation. when i was governor of florida for eight years, we cut taxes, we cut regulation. guess what? businesses flourished. we got more jobs and we didn't have the ridiculo

that, of course, had senator joe manchin's hand on it. he co-authored it when the senate was unable to pass a bigger, more reformative piece of legislation earlier in the summer without him. january 6th, the one-year anniversary, we saw countless speeches from senate democrats who tied in the need to pass voting rights election reforms as a measure to address january 6th to make sure that something like that never happens here again. there were tons of grass roots organizations putting pressure on majority leader schumer, on senate democrats to do something about it, and just this upcoming tuesday, president biden will actually devote an entire speech in atlanta to voting rights. now, the freedom to vote act, as i mentioned senator joe manchin co-authored it, but it still requires a rules change in order to get it across the finish line because it needs just democratic votes. they don't have ten republicans needed to pass it. i want you to take a listen to what majority leader schumer said on the floor yesterday about what they're going t

joe manchin appeared before reporters -- he was wearing a gym suit, a tunic, i'm only saying that so you're not jarred by his appearance in the next clip. he was at the capitol but he was wearing this sporty outfit. he told reporters scornfully while answering questions that he and senator sinema working with republicans to block federal voting rights protections. that will in no way result in people not being able to vote in the next election. he said that won't happen in the next election because the government won't allow it. i know you don't know what that could possibly mean. i know you think i'm paraphrasing him in a way that's obscuring what he must have meant. honestly, that's what we have got. that's what he said. >> senator manchin, what will you say to voters of color that your inability, your obstruction of voting rights --

first of all we're talking about joe manchin. what else did joe manchin say? he wrote an op-ed saying i oppose the partisan election law and oppose getting rid of the filibuster. they are holding the vote trying to get rid of the filibuster in order to pass the partisan election law that he opposes. so further mismanaging joe manchin. second, the democrats should look back at all the things they filibustered when donald trump was president when the republicans controlled the all. they blocked budget cuts, expanded gun rights, pro-life legislation, defunding planned parenthood. imagine a mcconnell led filibuster friesen at with a republican back in the white house and the republicans will pass all that and more. you have to have some sense of guardrails in this country that force people to be bipartisan. they don't want to try to be bipartisan. joe biden said he put his whole soul into being bipartisan and all we have is one infrastructure bill. maybe they should look at themselves and change themselves. >> dana: senator schumer will make a go of it. watch what