showing our audience the other products which contain palm oil — margarine, a pot noodle, digestives, bakewell slices, palm oil — margarine, a pot noodle, digestives, ba kewell slices, dairy milk. the point is very well made, you do not want to eat too much of any of those. so it is all about having a balanced diet, a mix of nutrients, and i don't think it is wrong to have the odd treat, but if it isa wrong to have the odd treat, but if it is a big component of your diet, it is a big component of your diet, it is a big component of your diet, it is going to be doing you much more harm in other ways, the quantity of sugar and calories, much more quickly than a long—term risk which may or may not be there of carcinogenesis. we do not know what process has gone into making this stuff. amanda, in terms of the calories and sugar content generally in those products, what would you say about them ? in those products, what would you say about them? keep them for treat times, but irregularly part of your diet, sorry to be boring, same old mantra! thank you very much, amanda, thanks for coming on th