i think she envious of barack obama. he feels once he became president he would enjoy the great reverence that people would essentially bow down to the donald, and he is enraged. >> joy, do it. >> i will say it on tv she an obsessive tv watcher. all he does watch tv and tweeter and he doesn't care about voter fraud, two of his kids, he has multiple people in his personal circle registered in more than one state. this is about personal senses of inferiority. it is bizarre. >> you know, let me say -- after teresa may. >> i have heard the theory of the inferiority. that is what drives you to run for president. some sense of need. normal people are like -- >> but driven by a sense of need. why do people spend years writing books, to prove something. psycho babble doesn't get anywhere with me. >> hamilton said vein is the highest ambition of the noblest minds. >> no no. >> they immediately tried to put people at ease. he went to diner with katherine cram and others. he said i may be to your right, but i'm not crazy. >> and ch

. >>> barack obama is the first president since hubert who never had a year of economic growth is 3% or more. after the last great per session -- the economy grew 4.5% in a year. think of where we'll be and think of where all the blue collar workers would be. >> let's talk about the next four years. donald trump did something that i really liked. >> i do watch the show, you know, i point out his greatness occasionally here. >> lets talk about infrastructure and the airports and the shabbiness and laguardia airport and the railroad system we have in this country compares to the railroad systems and airports all over the world and south africa and all over the world, it is all better than ours >> republicans are trusting to spend but they don't want to do it for fiscal reasons. we are not going to waste your money but we'll spend some money to get capitol investment. do you think paul ryan will go along with that with trump doing some spending or not? >> i do. >> first of all, we have to understand that there are a lot of hugely important infrastructure projects that can be privately f

barack obama did it in charleston and other places after the shootings. and that emotional connection which has to do with familiy an a larger commonality of the american experience is something that's very important for every president and it's not at all clear that donald trump has that capacity. >> i have to tell you i feel like i remember watching trump on election night, and i feel like i saw a little piece of it. would you agree? people were waiting to pounce, frankly, and then he -- people were waiting to pounce. >> there's very little in his life that shows it. i don't think you'll see that between he and his wife. she might not even come to washington. and his children, he gets praised for raising his children. we'll see how thatlaysut in terms of his businesses and their involvement in the presidency. there are just a lot of questions there and you can only hope for the best. >> two different men here. i should end with the book, an easy question for you maybe, maybe not, what's your biggest takeaway? you mentioned the fact his try will look bac

do you think democrats will do the same with barack obama? >> the reagan cult is creepy and dangerous and you had years and years and years in which republicans said what would reagan do? let's find some minor writing that reagan might have said. >> right. >> what was right in 1980 is right forever. that's bad. >> right. >> but they should value obama's presidency. they should see it as a model to emulate and defend. >> jonathan chait, the book is called "audacity," fascinating and provocative. thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you, chris. >>> that's "all in" this evening. a reminder, at 11:00 p.m., "the obama years with brian williams." "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> thank you, my friend. we know that it didn't end well. what we forget sometimes is that it did not start well. richard nixon was elected in 1968, re-elected in 1972. that meant that his inauguration day for a second term was in january 1973. it was his inauguration date, january 20th, '73. almost spooky to look back at that day now because of the way we know

i said barack hussein obama, president of the united states. that doesn't seem like it's going to sell in peoria. but he changed all the rules. >> his first line in the speech is "the plains of peoria." >> he said only in this country is my story possible. only now is my story possible he should have said. >> well, to me -- joy, how do you -- chris's point about this popularity, i think in some ways that's part of the thing that's so hard to get your head around. here's someone who had been a controversial president. he's overseen one of the most polarized eras since the civil war and yet is going out with -- as one of the more popular politicians of the country, one of the more popular exiting politicians in recent memory yet is going to turn this office over to a man who is a repudiation, rejection of him. >> it's incredible. i can recall interviewing people during the campaign who really liked barack obama, who voted for him twice, he wears very well as a president. you have to live with a president over time, he wears well, he's a congenial

you reported on barack obama from the very start. what are you expecting the theme to be? >> recount what you just recounted what he viewed his biggest achievement, certainly issue was the aca former care act, obamacare. it is controversial. that's going to figure heavily in how republicans replace obamacare which is a lot tougher than repealing it. same thing with the auto bail-out and other achievement of his career. it's important that he be able to stand there defend himself. he let his achievement speak for themselves. >> i want to play the sound byte from the first speech to congress. it's one of the most iconic movements. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally. >> you lie. >> it's not true. >> you can hear it there congressman joe wilson, shouting out you lie. it became symbolic of this by vision between republican and president obama. how did that leave disdain on his -- over the nine or eight years. >> it could not have been more important, the republicans made it clear from the start they would oppose and obstruct anything th

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barack obama had dignity. as you watched over eight years, he did what a man does, taking care of his family, his wife and children. he didn't talk about it but he modeled it, represented it in his actions. this, in an increasingly less parented country was invaluable. you can strongly oppose someone politically, really think you're seeing bad things there but have a responsibility to see and note what good there is. he said that he's touched a rising generation. to some significant degree i have a feeling that will probably prove true." well, that's peggy noonan, a conservative columnist, writing about the obama presidency. and a progressive columnist speaking yesterday on cbs "morning news," i believe it's powerful, a powerful thing. i have three kids who have grown up and they have never known anything but a black president." when i read the words of these two figures i respect, i refuse as an american not to be an optimism about our country. and that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in"

with the unusual name of barack hussein obama. it had the clothing of nonpartisan speech but he could have said i will defend my decisions on cuba and the facts. i will defend concerns about climate change. i will defend and oppose any muslim ban. >> huge applause when he said that. >> that is what was in our thinking. we don't want that in this country. the attorney general said that today. jeff sessions. he i thought it was in many ways a speech that had the sound and clothing of a nonpartisan speech. it was very much a statement that i'm going to be in this thing and calling this guy. i thought this was the best line -- actually i don't want to hog this but this i think got to the heart of his fight with trump. it is a fight. after all, if every economic issue is framed as a struggle between a hard-working white middle class and undeserving minorities than workers of all shades will be left with scraps while the wealthy draw in to their private enclaves. that's a statement against trump. >> we should note it was an unusual endi

obama as former president barack obama, nothing illustrates that more starkly than the helicopter waiting to take off with former president, former first lady. it is known for this mission as executive one. it's normally known as marine one. short flight across the military district of washington to what was formerly known as andrews air force base, now laden with the clunky pentagon title joint base andrews, as most of them are, but there you see the military lined up to escort the former president over to the aircraft. both men will be coming out this entrance. steve schmidt, your assessment of what we heard. >> i think there were two things that were striking. first this republican president's administration is not going to be animated by conservatism, but rather a fierce american nationalism. it will be interesting to see that play out. secondly, in very unusual for an inaugural address in the modern era, there was no articulation of american values, of the values of the post world war ii liberal order with the united states at the center of it, a communication to the world about our

i moved over to my barack obama twitter account. he said, when we return, we're going to get back to work. i'm hoping that he gets back in there. and i don't think he's going to stand by, actually, and watch the repeal of all the great work that he's done happen. i believe that he'll have a voice in this. michelle will as well. >> it's so easy to undo a legacy. they may think they can erase these things, but the accomplishments of barack obama happened and you can't make them unhappen. joining me now, emily tisch sussman, the campaign director for the center for american progress. emi emily, tell us what you hope comes out of today? >> i think we're already achieving a lot of what come out of today. the election may have not gone the way we wanted. we may be out of power when it comes to law making, but we are in power when it comes to the culture of this country, moving forward, people moving together and this is one of the most heartening events i've ever been to. it is so positive. and it is one of the nicest gathering i've ever

i don't mind admitting because how you grew up -- barack obama was emotionally stirring. >> i felt the same way. i wrote a column the day after the election in this building, and i cried through the entire writing of the column. it was very emotional for me. it would be fascinating. it's not as if he leaving early, this is end of this era. i hope it's a forward looking speech. he talked about his legacy, i hope it points toward the future. >> he talked about being -- the republicans are doing jumping jacks if they this tripled -- if gotten help from the reduction, they would be stringing her up. >> one think i think is porn about tonight, he is not focused on his legacy, i think as he is trying to instill that hope and optimism to people. about how getting on legal school counsel, joining pta, joining the school board, be a voice of optimism, that's what he going to carry forward tonight. there's not going to be dry eyes tonight. a lot of people will be looking at that administration and focus on a lot of things he got done and a lot on the table to get down and what's going to happen

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michelle obama's legacy, if i have to say her biggest legacy is she and barack obama have shown us that there were not only founding fathers, there were founding mothers. >> yes indeed. they have made huge strides to bring culture into that white house. we are all going to miss them so much. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> you can catch my shows saturdays and sundays. a special edition of the rachel maddo show is next.

bush, a different kind of boomer to barack obama, a law professor, and from barack obama to donald trump, the american tv reality star. so there's something in the american soul that jumps from poll to poll. >> there's a way with our words that sums up our trends. that's chilling. jon, you've written so beautifully about presidents in our past that because of the passage of time you can't possibly come to know. and yet you've also spanned the other end of that spectrum. you've had 41 sit down and say, here it is, all of it. here's my letters, my notes, my thoughts, here's my entire life. now you've heard a tour of the confines of the mind of this young, departing, 55-year-old president, who has his own specific column in history. what do you make of that? >> well, i think he's -- i think obama and 41 actually have a good bit in common. when i interviewed president obama about 41, as you mentioned a moment ago, he spoke in these camera-ready paragraphs, talking about how bush had -- the senior bush had proven to be a gentleman from afar and up close. and that president bush sr. did things

michelle obama's legacy, if i have to say her biggest legacy is she and barack obama have shown us that there were not only founding fathers, there were founding mothers. >> yes indeed. they have made huge strides to bring culture into that white house. we are all going to miss them so much. thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> >>> welcome to our coverage of the farewell address of president barack obama. office, organizing.

barack obama being sworn in as president for the first time. we don't have a hard-and-fast crowd estimate for how many people were there but nobody disputes he beat the record, that he beat lbj's record. and a big part of that was the historic nature of his election as the first african-american president but another part of it was the momentum coming out of his victory in the 2008 election. he won election in 2008 by 10 million votes. the electoral college was 365-173. the democrats added 21 seats to what was already their majority in the house. they went all the way up to a super majority in the senate and, yeah, the 2008 election had been hard fought and they had called him every name in the book. by the time barack obama stood there on the dais to have chief justice john roberts screw up his oath of office he had a 67% approval rating. that was january 20, 2009. that became the most attended event ever in the history of washington, d.c. at the time democrats were on top of the world and the republicans were the exact opposite. i mean, the r

. >> of course this marked the departure of barack obama who suggested there is more to be written for him as the leader of the party. >> this is not a period, this is a comma. in the continuing story of building america. >> more first, but whether he start with setting up what is also expected to be a day of real consequence in its own right. the massive march that grass roots organizers say is a message to the white house and congress. women's rights must be protected. we have reporters covering all angles and begin with cal perry on the national mall. people already gathering. >> reporter: yeah, people are already here coming in from all over the country. as you mentioned, this is a small vip area what you will see are we expect tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands packed in down independence avenue. i'll have jim spin around and we'll show you some of the crowd that is already here. we talked for people from charlotte, from the midwest, all the way from the west coast this morning. as you sort of alluded to, this all coming just a day of course after president trump has b

barack obama is going to be there. that's what bill clinton and many others, this is an important moment for us as the democracy and values that we stand in. i am going to be there. as soon as he raises his hand. i know it is a start of a new era. democrats are in the front line in many ways of the democratic party here in america. i know this is the start of a time where we are going to need people to dig in and fight and do what they can to protect the american people. >> new jersey's senator, cory booker, thank you very much for joining us. we are just at the 12th hour mark before the swearing in, thank you very much for joining us. tonight we'll take our first break of our extended broadcast tonight when the 11th hour continues and what we won't see going on tomorrow because it is done completely behind closed doors. it is apart of the peaceful transfer of power. later, will the new president be in violation of anything on day one. are all his business and entanglements are now sorted out and squared away. we'll as

i think that's the person that barack obama is and the president that he became. i think his closing statement tonight really capsulized that better than any of us could have expected. >> al, as we have been talking, we have been watching the president continuing this sort of remarkable rope line he's doing. this is not typical president obama. we saw him have a long conversation with his former spokesman robert gibbs who we know from his line in this business. i wonder from your experience in talking with the president in the closing days, going to the closing party on friday night, watching him tonight, do you feel you have a clear image of what president obama will make of the next political chapter in his life? what he's going to do with his post presidency and how political it will be? >> i think he's going to be firm on broad policies, but he's going to apply it in a direct political way. i think you must remember at his core he believes in himself as an organizer. whether it is a political organizer or on the ground organizer. he's very committed to doing s

there is no barack obama and so i guess we are it. i guess the evil media is the new enemy but i don't see a real future in this strategy, i saw others from the other administration saying well, steve kind of went a bit far with those remarks. >> on the other hand, part of this complaint was that we could not have been more wrong of this election and no one is standing up to protest that. >> they won the election, it was a narrow victory. assuming that the conversation o f politics will turn to the next election and not the last election. those comments are fine for the chairman. those comments are outrageous for a senior adviser who carries the title "senior adviser and chief strategist." for people who are born in the 1980s, that number is 25%. we have seen a total collapse of the teaching of civics in this country. those remarks are chilling. just a week ago, stephen bannon, sworn to defend the constitution of the united states. the first amendment and freedom of the press. when white house officials making comments and not complai

the night that barack obama was elected president. >> yes, we can! yes, we can! yes, we can! ♪ ♪ >>> now, eight years later, president obama is going home. ♪ >> we joined him on air force one for his last trip to chicago as president, to say farewell to the nation. ♪ ♪ >> the soundtrack for our day, music from the president's own spotify lists. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> tonight you're going to talk to the american people. >> right. >> is this a hard one? do you know what you're going to say? >> i know what i'm going to say. i have to make sure i get through it properly. you know, when you reflect back on eight years, for all of the highs and the lows, the one thing that is a constant is the incredible dedication of the people who got you there, and who helped you do your job. everybody from the staff at the white house to the folks who make sure the airplane flies to supporters who would write me notes when things weren't going well to the people who would say that the work we did made a difference. so i think that that sense of gratitude that i feel for those folks, i just ho

. >> >>> welcome to our coverage of the farewell address of president barack obama. office, organizing. basically testifying in a personal way, i'm more optimistic, confident in the power and potential of american civic involvement and american citizenship and the american democracy than i was when i was a young naive kid that didn't have gray hair and burst on the scene. i now have the battle scars. i have been there and i can testify to you firsthand, i've watched this guy -- he didn't say this, i've watched this guy question my citizenship and now secede me -- be that was the sub text, right but your faith in people will be disappointed but more often than not rewarded. >> the quote i just read, the way it finished is sometimes you'll win, sometimes lose, presuming the reservoir of goodness in others can be a risk and there's times when the process will disappoint you but for those fortunate to be a part of this work to see it up close it can energize, inspire your faith in america and in americans will be confirmed. >> did he talk about congress tonight? >> littl

bush or barack obama? >> if i were a democrat today, i would say you guys were right because he did not protect our political process when we needed it. at this point i -- >> how many drone strikes did the president mount against terrorists abroad? >> george w. bush presided over 9/11. >> not only that -- >> you've got somebody with deep connections to a hostile foreign power in the white house. >> and i want to get david back in. i love david frumm because we can have this argument because george w. bush did in fact preside over 9/11, which is the most devastating terrorist attack in our soil in american history, but you do have people who come from the bush administration trying to say that barack obama, who did not have a 9/11 on his watch, is somehow weaker than george w. bush. where do you come down on this? >> well, he did get bin laden. i think that the major problem in the world right now is syria. and i think that's a mess for the whole world and not just barack obama's problem. again, some of the

was there an unvarnished barack obama at that moment? >> you know, there was just surpri surprise. uhm -- you know, generally speaking, uhm, not just me, but my team have been pretty good at seeing something coming, and partly because just the polling was so off, the data was off, there was a surprise. uhm, you know, i think the president-elect would be the first to acknowledge he didn't run a conventional campaign, and it's not clear that he or his team thought they were going to win, ah, and so, uhm, so i think more than anything it was just surprise. >> and that is just part of lester holt's series of interviews with president obama on tuesday. lester gained rare access to the president flying with him for the president's final jurn ri on air force one returning to chicago for that farewell address. more on "nbc nightly news" and special report "barack obama the reality of hope" airing tonight at 10:00 p.m./9:00 central on nbc. lester holt joins me now. >> good day, andrea. >> congratulation, this was extraordinary. i'm also fascinated by that night, election night, and the deci

three supreme court vacancies arose during the presidency of barack obama. he was only allowed to fill two of them. one position held open for almost a year rather than allow him to make his final poi appointment. >> charles schumer of new york is getting in one of the lead cars. he was just inside the white house. the leaders of the inauguration effort in congress are part of the general gathering, though when the first couples are behind closed doors, it is just them. but the first of the vehicles will start filling up outside the white house. the first lady, present and future will be in the first of the limousines, then the vice presidents, current and future and then the presidents. >> elizabeth warren and dick durbin, james inhofe and bob menendez. unless you have the senate almanaced in your head, you'd never know. >> i thought it was interesting to see inhofe even close to bernie sanders. talk about 180s. you know, right behind that, when i worked on the hill, right behind those steps is the actual crypt where washington was going to be buried. it's

but then very soon there after, february 2007, he came out for barack obama. he came out as an early and very high-profile supporter of this one-term illinois senator. right. and that was a really important endorsement for obama. obama was going to be running against hillary clinton and well-known democrats trying to win the democratic nomination in '08. to get somebody as well known as tom daschle to come out for him and early? that was a huge deal for obama. and it turns out the ties between these two politicians were more than just skin deep. by an accident of timing, tom daschle was getting unexpectedly turfed out of office at the exact same moment that barack obama was arriving at the united states senate. the young senator obama was able to hire some very, very experienced, very politically adapt staffers from the office of the outgoing democratic senate leader. he got tom daschle's top staff for the senator, for his senate office. and tom daschle's top staff in turn helped barack obama optimize his first term in the senate to try to give him the best ch

obama, one of the reasons why we no longer lead the world is barack obama. >> don't think everybody will agree with you on that one. that's a tough charge. i am running up against the clock. we'll leave it there. the debate will continue, i am sure. before we go programming note. this week lester holt will take "nbc nightly news" across america, talking to americans about the state of the nation, all leading up to friday's inauguration. that's all we have for today. back next week for inauguration weekend. and because of it's sunday. "meet the press" and another nfl game to worry about. let's hope the packers beat the cowboys. >>> due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >>> msnbc takes you behind the walls of america's most notorious prisons into a world of chaos and danger. now the scenes you've never seen. "lockup: raw." >> if personal relationships can get complicated on the outside, they can be even more complicated behind bars. >> my mom gave me the best advice. everything that has happened in my life, she told me that was going to happen.

what should barack obama do? >> we must not be silent. >> do you think the president has been too silent? >> no, but those of us in position, we have to go out there and make some noise. we've got to organize. >> that is a powerful thing to say coming from you, that you do not believe he is a legitimatety elected president. what should be done? >> we have to continue to work and continue to speak up and speak out. >> how do you accept working with him under any circumstance. >> it is going to be very hard and very difficult, almost impossible for me to work with him. >> we'll have more of that interview with congressman lewis later in the program, including whether he would ever invite naldrump to selma? not surprisingly lewis's comments drew some strong reaction from both sides of the while and multiple responses from the man he criticized. >> a day after congressman lewis told me he doesn't believe trump is a legitimately elected president, donald trump responded. >> he should respond more time on fixing his di

and there you see barack obama out of andrews. let's listen in. >> so it behooves me to be very brief. >> no! >> yes, yes. i said before and i will say again that when we started on this journey we did so with an abiding faith in the american people and their ability, our ability to join together and change the country in ways that would make life better for our kids and our grandkids, that change didn't happen from the top-down but it happened from the bottom-up. it was meant sometimes with skepticism and doubt, some folks didn't think we could pull it off. there were those who felt that the institutions of power and privilege in this country were too deeply entrenched, and yet all of you came together in small towns and big cities, a whole bunch of you really young, and you decided to believe. and you knocked on doors and you made phone calls, and you talked to your parents who didn't know how to pronounce barack obama. and you got to know each other and you went into communities that maybe you never thought about visiting and m

but we also won't see barack obama do the george w. bush thing, it seems, we are just gets to the end of the presidency on january 20th, gets on that hl kopter, goes away. we basically never hear from him again as a political figure. >> a senior couple aides told me he needs to sleep first. he doesn't sprik me as the guy that needs to sleep. >>> before we go, let's take a final look at today's microsoft pulse question. divide on president obama's legacy. will president obama be able to secure his legacy after leaving office? 87% of you say yes, but there is still time to weigh in at pulse.msnbc.com. we'll be right back. (burke) at farmers, we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even mer-mutts. (1940s aqua music) (burke) and we covered it, february third, twenty-sixteen. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ >>> i'm chris jansing coming to you live from the white house. before i let you go, a quick reminder of the big

i have no doubt that the trump support -- supports -- for example acknowledge anything that barack obama did as president. >> this time to be gracious, i thought he could have said thank you for your service for eight years, i was look for a little more of that. >> i thought he would say you took over at time of financial calamity, and got us through it. he didn't do it. he didn't deliver a conservative message. particularly talking about trade for instance, he talked about the value of protectionism. i'm sure that's not what paul ryan wanted to here. >> what do you think, chris. >> i think somebody who spent a year and a half on the road. >> how many times hotel. >> enough. having said that there's one line for me, summarized what connected politics proper but the jobs left and closed. he has been a man who wanted to stick with what has gotten to him to the dance. you do that but, having said that i do think it is a missed opportunity to reach out to president obama who he acknowledge they had great contact, missed opportunity not to say something to hillary clinton in that speech. >> j

that's what barack obama did. >> barack obama did not have that pr machine behind him. what donald trump does do is communicate this and the idea that people will have less regulation, whether they will or they won't in the end, it gets them enthused. >> barack obama set a record for the most consecutive months of private sector job growth. that's a fact. let's see what donald trump does. i think this is a big stheem for this week though. i think we've seen a transition with a lot of talk. he becomes president on friday, critics like me, his supporters, we have to sit back and see what actually happens now. >> right. >> what is going to happen when he is president of the united states? >> i think there's another thing that we should be looking at going on underneath all of this, which is that walmart announced it was going to add 10,000 jobs. that's pretty much what it normally does in a given year. the other thing they said is they're going to dramatically expand their training academies for workers. that says there's such demand for workers that walmart is going to st

what was so amazing about barack obama was everybody came downtown that day, anybody that lived near the federal part of the city, everybody came that day. i think that's why you saw the extraordinary number of people. when people save they don't like washington, they shouldn't think about the people that live there. they should think about the people elected to go there. that's the problem. it's not the african-american main stream man or woman who have been there. it's the people that go there to govern. it's a fact of demographics, you don't see the large citizenry of washington coming out for this thing. >> again, donald trump polled 4%. >> they're not thrilled by today. >> washington demographic, it's still mostly african-american but just barely now actually. >> the plan -- >> the plan. >> this rumored plan to change the demographic. >> one thing washingtonians agreed on is they didn't vote for donald trump. >> that's true. neither did anybody in any big city. philadelphia was about 85% for secretary clinton and new york as well and certainly san francisco and l.a. and atlanta.

barack obama for all those years. you apologize for delegitimizing my presidency but come to my inauguration and let's all get along but that's not going to happen. >> coming up, john mccain will join us. also reporting from hallie jackson. "new york times" reporter. friday live in washington to cover the presidential inauguration. our coverage kicks off 6:00 a.m. blocks from capitol hill. among our many guests on set will be minority leader nancy pelosi and senator rand paul. here now the forecast. >> you might wan to pack the little umbrella. not saying the big umbrella but little one. i'll explain in a second. let me first get to what happened over the weekend and holidays big ice storm across the country. kansas hit hard, oklahoma hit hard and areas around iowa. doesn't look bd but thin coating of ice makes a world of difference. no traction whatsoever. that storm through the ohio valley with mostly rain. plenty warm enough all rain in the great lakes. when it gets to the northeast later today, that's where we get

this, barack obama was not the candidate of the establishment either. hillary clinton was. so, barack obama owed the establishment nothing and people are talking about how the democratic party is decimated now. but we might see that very same thing happen to the republican party. neither of these two men owe the establishment anything. >> amazing, a lot of parallels you can draw between the two men. hugh, final word to you and we're really running ow of time here. on monday, what do you think we're going to see? >> i hope we see a lot of action and executive orders and a lot of movement immediately and i also hope we see president trump salute the women that are there today. 66 million voted for hillary clinton, three of them are staying with me inside the beltway at my home and i'm glad they're there showing the america and the world that the constitution is still in place and everyone is still welcome to speak their mind in america. >> jason, i'm going to give you the final word. do democrats start looking like obstructionist if they try to block ever

i can't stand barack obama! they are are on obamacare! >> here is the question if you were donald trump and looking for running in reelection in 2020. would you find it acceptable for the congress to vote to repeal obamacare and come up with a replacement. >> no. >> three years later? we will cover replacement in, let's say, 2019? when you're about to run for reelection. >> not on your life. the democrats would have every right politically to kill it. they will drag their feet and kill it every step of the way just like republicans tried to do with obamacare. so unless you have the replacement right there waiting when you repeal it, it is a loser for donald trump and i would predict that it would kill any republican running in michigan, ohio, wisconsin, and pennsylvania. >> the way you can kick the can down the road and lots of ways to do it is phase out the repeal and promise you're going to keep the popular parts of the plan and start to pass things that republicans like more on health care to create a more robust market but they have t

i think that's the person that barack obama is and the president that he became. i think his closing statement tonight really capsulized that better than any of us could have expected. >> al, as we have been talking, we have been watching the president continuing this sort of remarkable rope line he's doing. this is not typical president obama. we saw him have a long conversation with his former spokesman robert gibbs who we know from his line in this business. i wonder from your experience in talking with the president in the closing days, going to the closing party on friday night, watching him tonight, do you feel you have a clear image of what president obama will make of the next political chapter in his life? what he's going to do with his post presidency and how political it will be? >> i think he's going to be firm on broad policies, but he's going to apply it in a direct political way. i think you must remember at his core he believes in himself as an organizer. whether it is a political organizer or on the ground organizer. he's very committed to doing s

barack obama had a lot of stars, and that brings interest from people. trump inaugural activities had trouble with that. the events will be notable this week. >> very interesting to see what happens friday, especially the energy on the mall which often the way we measure how it is. >> exactly. >> that energy you're talking about. kelly o'donnell, great to have you. >> good to see you. >>> congressman lewis cited russian influence, something senate intelligence committee has announcedt will vestigate going forward. professor at the university of texas, rober tranum, political analyst and senior bush/cheney adviser and national political reporter for bloomburg politics, sahil kapur. what's happening, sahil? >> he has gone after john lewis. he is a hero on this cause. nobody has more integrity on this issue and a lot of admirers in and outside the democratic party this really chills the atmosphere going forward for relations with president-elect trump and democrats in congress in particular. trump has a negative approval rating. things like this don't help.

compare the pictures of trump's inaugural crowd to the 2009 inauguration of president barack obama when the city estimated that 1.8 million people came to witness history. meanwhile, saturday's women's march on washington had an estimated 500,000 participants, according to a d.c. official and organizers. well over 1 million people demonstrated at sister marches nationwide. civil rights hero representative john lewis addressed marchers in atlanta. >> when you see something that is not right, not fair, not just, you have a moral obligation, a mission and a mandate to say something, to do something. we cannot afford to be silent. we're going to send a message. i know something about marching. [ cheers and applause ] >> joining me now, three members of new york's congressional delegation. hakeem jeffries, gregory meeks and yvette clark. thank you for being here this morning. >> thanks for having us, reverend. >> congresswoman clark, it comes after several things this week as the administration came in that i don't think i've ever seen, and i've not been able to research an administration co

. >> barack obama has stepped up. he has said he is legitimate and dennis mcdonough was on tv this weekend saying that donald trump is a legitimate president. despite the fact that donald trump, you know, back in 2011 started saying barack obama wasn't legitimate. >> i know. >> you can say what you want about this back and forth. >> very good point. >> say what you want about this back and forth. and i think both men have a right, if they want to go back and forth they can go back and forth all you want but you can't drag barack obama in this fight because barack obama has bent over backwards doing what any president should do to a person that is replacing him despite the fact he may disagree with the vast majority of his agenda. >> these 20 democratic lawmaker in the house say they too won't attend the inauguration. the democratic party is fund-raising on lewis' comments. i ask you, as someone who puts his opinions on pen and paper every day, i guess, first of all, would you agree with congressman lewis' statements?

very high. 77% leaving and 15% higher than barack obama but in barack obama's defense, i mean, bill clinton had a very calm peaceful last two years in the white house which explains, david, why he has such high numbers. you have, obviously, followed both bill clinton and barack obama very closely. written a book about both of these democratic presidents and i must say, it is somewhat remarkable in these divisive times that both of these democratic presidents have left office after eight years of just brutal political war fare with very high, very strong, very impressive approval numbers. >> well, one was impeached and the other was, in some ways, tempted to be delegitimatize with the whole birther notion and everything else. polls are one thing. legacy is another. as a historian, i'm more interested in the long term than what somebody leaves office with. because that will diminish with time. and i think -- >> what is -- what is barack obama's long-term legacy? >> you know, i think that, to some extent, we have all looked at -- not see the forest for the trees. and i still believe deeply tha

regions that barack obama won both teams. and others were predisposed to donald trump for other reasons. early and very vocal donald trump supporter. how bad is the heroin and opioid crisis here? >> it'ser the same as it is all over the country. it's just eating us alive and no one has an idea or a cure of how to stop it. the drugs pour nothing to our community most of the heroin and meth is coming across the mexican border. >> anybody comfortable telling me why they're here snp. >> heroin. >> robbery and possession of heroin. >> counterfeit controlled substance. >> meth. >> felony possession of heroin. >> everybody drugs? >> yeah. >> is it a bad problem around here? >> yes. >> i'm a heroin addict and i think about heroin 24/7. >> like, me i'm pregnant. >> how many kids? >> i got two my brother's got custody of and i'm pregnant with one. >> i'm getting ready to lose all my rights to my kids. >> two step kids and one of my own. >> who's going to help stop this problem? >> we need to get the drug dealers off the streets. someth

barack obama was the first. donald trump capitalized on it. >> he is using it to connect to people. >> he used it quite successfully but his job now, i think one of the most important tasks he has is to calm the country. >> yeah. >> calm the country easement i agree. >> that has been a big surprise to me because the guy was whether you like him or don't like him, he was brilliant in getting the nomination. >> completely. >> the last two months, i think to some extent, that brilliance has not been there because, you know, he had this amazing opportunity to take, you know, the base that voted for him and pile on top of that. >> right. >> independents and democrats who were skeptical of him, but were willing to be persuaded. over at least thast tlast two m the combativeness and compulsiveness made people nervous. >> he is tweeting against merle streep and alec baldwin, "snl," john lewis. that's not the way to add. >> and where his approval ratings tanks. >> instead of staying after lockheed and boeing and ford and