tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC January 17, 2017 1:00am-2:01am PST
"the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> thank you, my friend. we know that it didn't end well. what we forget sometimes is that it did not start well. richard nixon was elected in 1968, re-elected in 1972. that meant that his inauguration day for a second term was in january 1973. it was his inauguration date, january 20th, '73. almost spooky to look back at that day now because of the way we know the way that term ended up. his inauguration day was 42 degrees that day, a stiff wind blowing. there he was getting sworn in along with spear rowing a knew.
we know within nine months of that inauguration, spiro agnew would be resigning in disgrace while facing corruption charges. not long thereter, of course, president nixon would be resigning in disgrace in the watergate scandal. that inauguration date, the start of their second term, that day itself was a perfectly inauspicious start to that inauspicious presidential term. the president may have been trying to project a little youthful vigor or something or for whatever reason he went out that day to his inauguration, january 20th, 1973, he went out just in his suit, he went out without a top coat. turns out, that was a bad plan. once he was out there, the temperature dropped, he got really cold and he didn't have a warm coat of his own so he took one off some poor secret service agent. that borrowed coat, the coat he took from the secret service officer ended up getting donated to the smithsonian because it's what president nixon wore to his
second inauguration. it just wasn't his, some poor cold guy defending him. at the smithsonian year that, now the national museum of american history, which was then the museum of technology, they held one of the inaugural balls there. it went bad in a very specific way. again, they apparently had had a farm life exhibit set up, i don't know, like the history of farming techniques in the united states or something. i don't know. but for whatever reason, they didn't clear out the farm life exhibit from the museum in order to make room for the inaugural ball and in the middle of the festivities, a large, angry red rooster got loose in the inaugural balance and started wreaking havoc in the v.i.p. section.
the head of the smithsonian, luckily, was apparently not afraid of that belligerent rooster in the v.i.p. section. he came to the rescue and used something, maybe a napkin. he kor coralled this poor rooster and say, "a guest objected that she was being molested." a guest objected that she was being molested by the rooster that got loose in the inaugural ball and the head of the smithsonian had to rescue her from the bird. nixon's second inaugural was a piece of work. it was kind of like that. this was the same inauguration where they also arrested a reporter during the inaugural parade. his name was frank van ripper.
he was a reporter for "the new york daily news." he was walking in parallel with the president's limousine. the secret service had apparently told these reporters it was okay to follow along with this part of the parade, nevertheless, police disagreed with the secret service and ended up tackling frank van ripper, wrestling him to the ground and arresting him right in the middle of the inaugural parade, new york daily news reporter. that was all separate and apart from the protesters that were there. also that year, there was a congressional boycott of nixon's inauguration. >> the inauguration festivities begin tomorrow in washington. the pentagon said today that troops are being brought into the capitol in case demonstrators get out of hands. leaders said the demonstrators wouldn't. reportedly, 165 members of congress planned to boycott the
inaugural because they don't want to be identified with the president. the library of congress says it knows of no similar occurrence in the past. >> richard nixon's second term was, of course, a disaster. he did not make it to the end of his second term, nor did his vice president. the inauguration that started that disastrous second term, apart from pat nixon's beautiful coat, you look back on that inauguration and all the different ways it went wrong, it seems like it's a harbinger of the doom that was about to come. nixon's immediate predecessor was lyndon johnson, and he died two days after the inauguration in 1973. they had to cancel the festivities they had planned to go on after the swearing in so instead they could make room for lbj to lie in state at the capitol. it was just a miserable, dark
mall strom of an inauguration, more than 40 years ago now. but it was also the last time there was a large-scale boycott by members of congress of a president's swearing in. you heard in that nbc report there, though, they expected 165 members of congress to boycott nixon's second inauguration. it didn't end up being that many. it ended up being half of that, about 80 members of congress stayed away in 1973. but that is the last time that a substantial number of congress men and congresswoman refused to show up. there's always a few here and there but that was the last time that there was any significant number of congress boycotting. now, more than 40 years later, it is happening again. today and into this evening, we have been watching a similar phenomenon take place, take shape for this year's inauguration of the new president. as of this past friday night, georgia democratic congressman john lewis was only one of a handful of democrat
representatives who said they would not attend the trump inauguration this week and it might have remained a small number had the incoming president had the discipline to not respond when congressman john lewis said he wasn't going to go to the inauguration. if he could have just let it go, it probably would have stayed a small number of liberal democrats who were not going to be there. instead, he spent martin luther king jr. weekend attacking john lewis. great move. so now lots and lots and lots of members of congress are saying they will stay home out of respect for john lewis, if for no other reason. judy chu, "after much thought, i have decided to stand with john lewis and not attend the inauguration. congresswoman yvette clarke, "i will not attend the inauguration." marcia fudge, i will be at home. i stand with john lewis.
we're up to at least 30 members of congress who have now pledged overtly by name, not anonymously, that they have said they will not attend the inauguration on friday. this appears to be the first large-scale congressional boycott of an inauguration since 1973. even before the swearing in on friday, we are already seeing the first large-scale protests against the new president. there were protests in washington this weekend, the big civil rights protests that took place in the cold rain. a civil rights protest that took place in washington, d.c., and on sunday in more than three dozen cities around the country, there was some surprisingly large rallies against donald trump. specifically, in defense of the affordable care act. this was the scene yesterday in boston.
you see everybody looks a little cold here, including senator elizabeth warren of massachusetts who you see speaking at the podium. they had planned to hold this boston rally inside a hall, the backdrop for these shots. so many people turned up, they had to move what was supposed to be an indoor event outside into the cold. so they are standing outside nathanial hall. they had to because 6,000 people turned out. in macomb county, where bernie sanders and chuck schumer and democratic leaders made appearances, the washington post reports that 10,000 people turned out in january and a very cold day for an outdoor rally in michigan. you saw congresswoman debbie stabenow there. in los angeles, outside the usc medical center, they got very big crowds yesterday. in portland, oregon, they turned out this very large -- look at that. the size of that crowd turning out in portland, oregon, yesterday.
there were also, incidentally, a lot of people that turned out in portland, maine. more than a thousand people turned out in richmond, virginia. all of these had high-profile democratic officials. boston mayor was there. in richmond it was tim kaine who ran for vice president with hillary clinton. in san francisco, it was nancy pelosi. in l.a., it was senator kamala harris. peters and stabenow there. elected officials turned out at these things and the organizing effort within the democratic party and the sort of grassroots, people powered stuff
against trump. the effort against the democratic party now is to make those two things one in the same, to make the organized democratic party and what looks like it's going to be a considerable anti-trump movement, they are trying to make those one thing, or at least to have them pulling in the same direction. we also saw some big events this weekend, specifically around trying to save the affordable care act. less like rallies and more like organizing meetings. standing room only in kentucky this weekend at this event trying to save the affordable care act. also, raleigh, north carolina, they have a huge turnout there for an event to save the affordable care act. same thing in iowa, you know. and it's one thing organizing a save obamacare or a stop trump event and to have a bunch of people turn up for that. it's another thing to have a ton of people turn up when you're a member of congress who supports trump. you're a member of congress who wants the opposite of all of those folks, if you're a member of congress who wants to get rid of the affordable care act, vote
to get rid of it. if you're a member of congress who supports trump, those kinds of elected officials all over the country, they are also now starting to see their public events be very well-attended. they are starting to see their constituent events get overrun with people who want to give them a piece of their mind. >> we're at this congressman's coffee house and i asked one of the people working for the congressman, this guy in the plaid shirt, if congressman was going to talk to everybody here and he said he's going to try and i said will he take questions from the whole group and he said, ma'am, that's not what he's here for. i felt summarily dismissed. he should be taking questions from every single person here so we can all hear his responses. this is a cop-out, in my opinion.
>> they want to take away the affordable care act, take away planned parenthood, the only place that women can get affordable health care. i just feel like nobody cares about -- i'm going to get upset. i feel unrepresented and uncared about and i'm sick of t it. does he have a heart? does he have a heart? i can't talk about it. i get too upset. >> that was in southern ohio this weekend, the republican congressman there is brad winstrop. i'm not sure he knew what he was in for when he sent out this, "you're invited" coffee with your congressman. this is what happened when he turned up. a huge room, very full of people, lots of people very frustrated with him, that he hadn't made enough time to take
their questions and when he did take their questions particularly on why he was voting to get rid of the affordable care act, he found that those conversations were very prickly. >> can't we fix the broken part instead of starting all over? >> why did you vote 60 times to repeal it? >> first of all, i wasn't there 60 times to -- >> how many times did you vote to repeal it? >> a few. >> that's what it was like for one ohio republican congressman this weekend facing his own constituents. in colorado, mike kaufman actually turned and ran when he faced something like this. he snuck out the back of his own event when he faced an overwhelming number of his own constituents who were really, really not happy about him about him voting to get rid of the affordable care act. >> coloradoans are divided and today more than 150 people showed up with many wanting to
ask congressman mike coffman about it. more people showed up than they planned for leaving dozens waiting for hours with no results. america, america >> all they wanted to -- >> and there were hundreds of people here. >> reporter: was go into the community room at the library. >> reporter: to meet with congressman mike coffman. >> they expected a small handful of people to show up. >> reporter: instead, they came in droves. >> we were supposed to be able to be in there all together. >> reporter: to talk about what is going on with the affordable care act. >> i'm going to potentially lose my health insurance. i have had a pre-existing condition. i've had breast cancer. what's going to happen to me? >> we were under the understanding that it was a ton hall meeting and they only let four people in at a time. >> reporter: police were putting
um crime scene tape so coffman could leave. >> we still want to speak with you. >> reporter: six minutes before the event was supposed to end. >> we were told at one point everyone would get their time and then he sneaks out six minutes early. i think he couldn't handle it. >> reporter: the statement reads, "unfortunatelily, we only reserved the room for 90 minutes which is usually plenty of time to see everyone. for those unable to see the congressman today, we apologize." all they wanted was a voice. instead, they got a closed door and a statement. >> and my spouse, who had health insurance, passed away. what do i do? you know, what am i supposed to do? >> that was from the nbc affiliate denver 9 news that happened this weekend during a meet with congressman mike coffman constituent event at his district. in terms of the remarkable and
early protests that we are already seeing against this incoming president, i think there's a couple things going on here. the first is very simple. donald trump isn't sworn in yet but the congress already is. the republican congress and the republican congress already is voting. they are already acting to start to get rid of the affordable care act. whether or not you like the affordable care act, it's inarguably true that tens of millions of americans have health insurance or are otherwise benefiting personally from that legislation from what president obama and the democrats did when they put that into place. there are tens and millions of american who is have health insurance who didn't have it before. there are many american who is know that they only have health insurance because of that legislation. and there are many americans who will tell you that they are only alive because they have health insurance and because they have the protections afforded by that legislation. it's a life and death fit. and when you take something like that, that is a life and death thing for a lot of people, you
take that away, do not be surprised when people are moved to act. so that is one thing that is going on. the other thing that's going on, though, is about this presidency as a whole and, you know, nobody is under any illusion that all other presidencies are great, right? we've had disastrous presidencies. we've even had bad inaugurations. ask the lady who had to get rescued from the stray rooster at nixon's balance at the smithsonian. we've had presidential transitions that haven't gone well. even good presidential transitions haven't gone well. at this point president obama was yanking tom daschle from his position and that was in a good transition. even when things are going well, stuff doesn't always roll out smoothly. today in the trump transition, they had to yank the deputy national security adviser job
from monica crowley after her plaigerism scandal and drove up these stock price for that particular firm. congressman tom price still doesn't have a hearing schedule for his nomination to be the new health secretary as more and more stuff comes out about him and his ethics problems, tom price may never get a confirmation hearing as health secretary. he may have his nomination yanked as well. there are problems that come up. there are -- there's sort of a normal level of problems that you expect with any incoming administration, with any presidential transition, even with any presidential inauguration. but what is not normal is for 200,000 people to have rsvp to say they are they are going to -- the women's march has more than 200,000 rsvps at this point
and that's separate and apart from the 300 other marches coordinated with it around the country at the same time. alongside that, we're looking at a congressional boycott of this inauguration which has apparently taken off like a runaway train because it's become a way for congress not just to protest the next president and what he's promising to do but for congress to stand with a man who honestly is the single most revered member of the house or the senate, the recipient of the presidential medal of freedom and one of the last living icons of the civil rights movement in america. it is martin luther king day today. i know a lot of people had the day off. we honor the holiday. of course, it feels like we honor it a little more than usual because it has a little more resonance than usual but also because of that oddly today feels like a good day to be a work.
a few minutes ago i mentioned a few names of some of the members of congress who have come out the last couple of days who say they are not going to inauguration this year. members of congress have said they are not going either to distance themselves from the inauguration of the new president and there's also a new phenomenon over the last few days, which is that members of congress have now come out saying that they are not going to inauguration specifically out of respect for congressman john lewis, the incoming president attacked this weekend. do we have that scroll in this scroll of names, this is the full list of names that we've got so far from members of congress who say they are staying away. we've been collecting and maintaining this list as members of congress have tweeted or posted or released statements about why they will not be attending. as you can see, it's getting to be a long list. it has actually grown by a couple of names that we just added tonight as we've gotten
closer to showtime. here's an interesting thing, though. we just now have a brand-new head of the congressional black caucus for this new congress that's just now been seated. his name is not on that list as members of congress who says he is not staying away. he says he has not made his decision but he's our guest tonight, next. stay with us.
if you live in alabama or mississippi or arkansas, you might have spent part of your day looking online for a restaurant or a business. you might have googled a local restaurant or business to see if they were opened today. in those states, your online query may have been greeted by, "robert e. lee's birthday might affect these hours." and it's not just businesses. if you wanted to visit the state capitol in little rock, it says, "robert e. lee's birthday might affect these hours." for the record, robert e. lee, dude on the right. dude on the left is martin luther king jr.
some people who saw these online notices about robert e. lee today got mad. so much so that this afternoon google apologized. they also issued a fix for this message error. because listings should not have said robert e. lee's birthday might affect these hours. what it should have said in those three states today was this, "martin luther king jr. day/robert e. lee's birthday might affect these hours." that's the right way to do it alabama, mississippi and arkansas. they cannot take it that there's a holiday honoring martin luther king and civil rights. they cannot take it that there would be a holiday to honor just him so they do it this way instead. these are their state calendars. third monday in january honoring martin luther king jr. except in those three states it's the
holiday that honors him and simultaneously confederate-owning state general robert e. lee. martin luther king day has been observed since 1986. even now we still don't have a full national consensus on how it should be celebrated. but even if you still feel the need to shout out on confederacy day, people who buy that would still concede one way you do not commemorate that is by attacking a living civil rights icon. if you feel the need to spend the mlk commemoration attacking someone who marched alongside martin luther king, was a friend of martin luther king, beaten to an inch of his life in selma in 1965, even then, i think everyone could probably agree that even if you are going to do that, you still shouldn't attack
congressman john lewis specifically by telling the world that he is all talk, talk, talk, no action or results. if we can agree on one thing that nobody should do, you would think this would be it. but that's how our incoming president spent the mlk holiday this weekend. joining us now is the new chairman of the black caucus. cedric richmond, thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> i understand this has been a very busy day for you. it feels like a martin luther king commemoration this year that has more resonance than usual. do you see it that way this year? >> it does. i think that there's a lot of concern in the country and a lot of anxiety in that the president-elect is not adding to that. john lewis is probably one of the most honorable man that i've ever met in my life. people always say that the arc of the moral universe bends towards justice. it bends towards justice because
people make it bend towards justice. it doesn't bend on its on. lewis, through blood, sweat and tears has made this country a more perfect union. a he in a tweet, the president-elect of the united states chose to ignore all of that for petty silliness and i think that's unfortunate and i think that the reaction throughout the country, democrat and republican, black and white is very fitting where people are taken up for john lewis' past, especially when you say it's all talk and no action. >> congressman lewis got into this what ended up being a back and forth with the incoming president after he said that he will not attend the inauguration because he thinks that the russian government tainted our election, that it wasn't a free and fair election and that donald trump was not legitimately elected president. i have to ask what your perspective is on those remarks and whether you'll decide if you
attend the inauguration. >> well, i think john lewis certainly doesn't need me to defend him but i think his remarks are reasonable, especially considering what john lewis has seen. and if president-elect trump is very concerned about being viewed as a illegitimate president, then the first thing he can do when he's sworn in is push the intelligence community to declassify all of those reports that are now classified about russian interference in the election. and for a guy like donald trump, which is true and classic bullying, is trying to cry victim now after he spent five years trying to make sure that everyone in the country thought that barack obama was not a legitimate president, that he was not born in the united states, and now for him to cry foul because someone questioned the legitimacy of his presidency, to me is just silly and petty but if i have to
choose between john lewis and donald trump, i'm going to choose john lewis every day of the week. >> do you feel like you have to make that choice specifically around your own decision whether or not you're going to go to the inauguration on friday? do you feel like that's a choice between supporting the congressman or supporting the incoming president? >> oh, absolutely not. john lewis is a dear friend and john lewis' blood, sweat and tears is what allowed many he to get elected to the united states congress and go to the best schools in the country and to wear what i wear today and what i do know about john, not just from my gut but from talking to him, he appreciates the individual thoughts and contributions of every person and i represent a caucus now of 49 members, 47 house members, 42 senators, 48 democrats and 1 republican and representing that body is a little bit different. i can tell you one thing, if i were not the head of black congressional caucus, i would not be in washington, d.c.,
going to the inauguration. but because i lead such a body, the question becomes a little bit different and i have not made up that decision yet. >> when do you anticipate making that decision and on what basis do you think you'll make it? i'm not pressuring you one way or the other about whether to go or not but what else you feel like you need to either hear or learn or decide or rum nate on before you make that call? >> well, it's just the role of the congressional black caucus. we've been the conscience of the congress since before 1971. the things that we're fighting for are still out there. voting rights, civil rights, community policing and police reform and criminal justice reform, education reform, fighting for those people who are trying to move into a better income area and fighting poverty. that's what we do on a daily basis. and the question as an organization is just how do we best accomplish that. so today we published and sent
out a list of bills that have been introduced by members of the black caucus in the 114th congress that were stymied because of republican leadership and those bills would go towards solving a lot of those problems. so we're a caucus that is issue-oriented and we solve our problems with legislation and other actions. so it's just a real thought process about how to best achieve our goals and to serve our purpose to not only the african-american community but the community at large and to the world and that's the question that i will wrestle with. i'll probably make the decision tomorrow. but again, just me, if i were not the chairman, there's no way i would be there. but being in a different role, i think that sometimes you have to make sacrifices. so if i'm there sitting through that inauguration, you'll know i'm making a sacrifice to be
the way to becoming my very own country music song, this weekend i took up something very different. this weekend i took up shopping. i'm not usually much of a shopper. but i bought something. my girlfriend will not let me bring this thing that i bought into the house. that means it's probably going to have to come here to work, maybe to the set somewhere. it's my personal best new thing. that's coming up. stay with us.
nobody likes to get things wrong. for example, i extemporaneously noted this hour that the mayor of boston was at the giant 6,000 people save the affordable care act anti-donald trump rally that happened in boston yesterday. the boston mayor was there. that said, the boston mayor is not tom menino. that's the great mayor of boston that's no longer with us. the mayor of boston is marty walsh. i'm very sorry about that. getting things wrong is no fun. it's not a lonely enterprise. yesterday the president-elect did an interview with the times of london and said, "there's five countries that are paying what they're supposed to. five. it's not much from 22." president-elect implying there are 22 countries in nato. there are not 22 countries in nato, president-elect. there are 28 countries in nato.
they are all important. but it happens. sometimes a fact slips through the cracks. other times, news just changes and no longer is what you said it would be. for example, on this past wednesday, the 15th anniversary of the opening of the prison at guantanamo, we reported on wednesday that the obama administration had come to the end of its transfer of prisoners out of the guantanamo bay prison. they were no longer going to be sending any more prisoners out of guantanamo. it turns out, wrong. last week, they did transfer four men from guantanamo to saudi arabia. we thought that was it. we thought that was the last four. no. today we learned that another ten guantanamo prisoners are heading to the nation of oman. that leaves 45 prisoners still at guantanamo. within the next few days, we think there are another five who are likely to be transferred out over the next few days. that would leave a total of 40 men in guantanamo when president obama leaves office. 40 out of the 242 that were there when he came into office.
president george w. bush had a dog named barney. behold barney having a bad day. >> how you doing? >> ooh. >> did he get you? >> he totally got me. >> bad dog, barney. that was two days after the 2008 election, two days after barack obama beat john mccain. you can tell barney is not happy about some new family with some new dog moving in on his turf. turns out that reaction, not just republican dogs. sunny obama reportedly bit a white house visitor on the face last week when she went in to pet him. thankfully, she was not hurt too
badly. she did get a nasty nip. take it from presidential dogs, change is hard. but sunny and bo and the rest of the executive branch are making plans to get out of d.c. after the inauguration and the president is not biting anyone on his way out. some of the important details about what's going to happen with the first family and where president obama is going after the inauguration, some of those details are still a little wooly in an intriguing way. we've got more on that in just a second.
on friday, after the inauguration, vice president joe biden will ride the amtrak train home to delaware one last time. mr. biden commuted on the train to delaware every day in his 36 years that he was senator biden. he will do it one last time as vice president biden this week so we know what his escape route would be on inauguration day. for president obama, we don't know what he's going to do. this is what it usually looks like, the iconic shot of the helicopter whisking the old president off the white house lawn one last time and goes to andrew air force base. and then that's president gets plane to his new home, wherever that maybe. which brings me to my next question, where will president obama be flown to at noon on friday? because this is the white house.
this is president obama's new house, which is two miles from the white house, seriously, 15-minute bike ride. president obama and the first lady could put on helmets and leashes for the dog and pedal down the street. they say he will take a final spin on the former the air force one after the inauguration. he said he will leave for a destination yet to be announced. the white house is being so tight lipped on this, you have to rely on sources like tmz who reports the first family will be heading to palm springs on friday. okay. maybe. we really don't know what president obama's exit from public life will look like else inst unless he will take the helicopter two miles down the road and have them drop him in his new front yard which would be awesome, we don't know. i don't know if they let you do that if you are no the president. on wednesday president obama will give his last press conference as president of the
united states. he has given 64 press conferences. this will be 65 on wednesday. we will have a lot of questions not just what he thinks of the last eight years but what his next few years will look like. joining us is april ryan, white house correspondent and bureau chief for american urban radio network. she was bringing us full circle, the reporter who took that video of barney, the dog taking a chunk out of the reporter's finger in 2008. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> do you have anymore insight in to what the first lady and president obama and their family are planning for the next year or so? >> i have gotten more insight in to the next couple of months. where they are going right after they leave the white house, that's still a number we are hearing it's a warm place. tmz maybe right but we hear it
is a warm place. from what i'm understanding the next three to four months the president is going to rest and be very quiet. then after that he's going to get very involved in the next generation of leaders. it's not necessarily about politics according to sources close to the president. he's going to deal with my brother's people. he's going to stay involved in that. it's about youth leadership also and look at his center. the center will look at ways to move the ball forward versus looking back at the past. you know, many of the white house sources that i've talked to, they say it is basically about all of us, not just one person. we, the people, yes, we can. so he's trying to, in the next couple of months after he takes this long needed break, he's going to talk about pulling us together and looking at the next generation of leaders.
again, it's not necessarily all about politics. it's about the center. it's about his efforts to be a private citizen and civic engagement. >> april, with have heard some reporting with this former attorney general eric holder that the president might have some interest in working on some of the structural aspects of politics, redistricting, gerrymandering some of the things that affected the tilt of the playing field when it comes to elections. do you have any sense whether that is on the horizon for him? >> yes, he will be working with his party. he's a successful president of modern times who will soon be a former president of modern times, a successful former president of modern times. he will be active with the party to bring up new leaders, but, again, my sources close say it is not all about politics but the next generation and looking forward and trying to build a civic engagement more so. so it's not just about politics but much broader field for him.
this is jimmy carter, which is not bad. looks like he is maybe getting over the flu, but still. being become, i don't know what happened there. this was a tough on mrs. eisenhower. she will haunt your dreams. gettysburg, pennsylvania maintains a set of our presidents in wax since 1957 /- 57 and their wives but the wives are one third size for some reason. eke. hall of presidents in gettysburg just closed down. maybe they didn't want to make a trump. this weekend they auctioned off all 44 of their life-size wax presidents. harry truman got his head separately in a box.
truman's wife bess strapped in to a car next to chester arthur's sister who performed the duties of first lady. best new thing in my world today, we got one. we got our own life-size wax president. would you like to see it? are you ready? can i have a fake drum roll? ding. yeah. we are now the proud owners of this life-size wax sculpture of president can you tell? i know it looks like your uncle after a rough night but according to them it is president eisenhower. life-size wax figure in casual clothing and sitting position, reclining, super casual divide david eisenhower went for more money than i am comfortable to
tell you about but it went for a fifth of lincoln. it was a steal. here's the catch. our senior producer did the bidding but did it by phone. our life-size eisenhower is still in gettysburg, pennsylvania. they told us we need to get it out of the auction house by friday. as you may imagine, it is difficult to ship a wax form president especially in a seated position. that can mean only one thing, road trip. one of our esteemed producers will have to drive to gettysburg in the next 72 hours or so to pick up dwight eisenhower. i'm warning you wax ike does not count as a passenger for the car pool lane even though you will be tempted. we will keep you updated on the transport of eisenhower. it is the best new thing in the world. susan, tell me if i bring him