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good morning. and welcome to a very special holiday edition of a.m. joy. today we're going to take a look back at 2016, which, let's face it, was kind of the worst. this pags summer may be a diant me here in the chilly heart of winter, or maybe you're just tryinto forget the feeling of roasting in your own skin during what was literally the hottest summer ever. as if that wasn't enough, 2016 had us all paranoid about mosquito bites thanks to the
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spread of zika. a virus that spreaded creating tragic results compounded by the fact that those who suffers zika's mt sious effects are babies. and that was just one of a long list of unsettling events in 2016. in june, orlando's pulse nightclub became the scene of the worst mass shooting in u.s. history. when a gunman went on a three hour rampage killing 50 people and wounding 53 more. that was followed just weeks later by theuly attack in the french cityf nice. where dozens of people were killed when a driver plowed a truck into a crowd that was gathered for a bastille day celebration. that same month. peaceful demonstration in dallas, texas, turned terrifying when a rooftop sniper killed five police officers and wounded seven others. and of course, there's the reason those protesters were there in the first place, the dallas attack came during the same week that police shot and killed 37-year-old alton sterling while he was selling cds outside a convenience store
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in baton rouge, louisiana. which was follo the very next day by the police shooting of 32-year-old philando castile after he and his girlfriend were stopped in st. paul, minnesota, for what was said to be a broken taillight. it seemed that in 2016 there was just no getting away from our grief. and no matter what genera of american music you love, 2016 gave you a reason to mourn. the list of legendary artists we lost this year just kept on growing. earth, wind, and fire founder maurice white, rock and roll icon david bowie, merle haggard, one of the country music's most influential artists, and eagles founding member and guitarist glenn fry. there was the death that came as the year began, natalie cole, whoo carried on the musical leg i have is her iconic father and became an icon in her own right. just before year's end, consummate leonard cohen who died in november. there was that death that felt like it came way too soon when
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malik taylor better known as tribe called quest fight dog died at the age of 45. just after he'd been recording the group's long awaited sixth album. and of course there was the death that none of us saw coming and couldn't imagine. 2016 was the year we lost prince. the news business also suffered devastating losses this year. john mcglauf lin died in august at age 89. and just in the last month, we lost the great gwen eiffel who in 2013 became the first black journalist who co-host the pbz news hour. of course that wasn't the only devastating loss that few could predict. 2016 also brought us the shocking political upset that robbed america of one of the most qualified people to ever seek the american presidency. and the potential first woman president. and it left our country in the stubby and very tiny hands of a reality show star who to put it mildo one ever, ever, ever, ever, ever imagined as president
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of the united states. on the upside, the arrival of election day put us all out of our collective misery out of a year of endearing what my colleague chris hayes says was our divisive and dem gojic campaign of trump. even as we stare down the uncertain future of the new presidency, there's still reason for hope. because in 2017, you can look forward to not facing the madness alone. because 2016 also brought you weekend mornings with a.m. joy. take a look. >> we to want bring in joy reid who we welcome to the 11:00, about to be 12:00 shift. >> joining us now is the great and the good joy reid. host of "a.m. joy." weekends here on msnbc. >> joy reid, host of msnbc's excellent must-watch a.m. joy on the weekends. >> joy reid, host of "a.m. joy." >> joy reid, host of "a.m. joy." >> weekends on msnbc. >> joy reid is the host of "a.m.
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joy" weekend mornings on msnbc, of course, and joins me now. >> when you have chris christie standing up and leading these, you know, these chants and even in the room they thought they sounded cool. outside of the room, it sounded crazy. you have these people chanting, guilty, guilty, guilty. >> and lock her up. >> and lock her up. >> when remember republicans -- >> apparent the price was wrong. good morning, and welcome to "a.m. joy" despite the condemnation from the donald trump from the national security establishment, he's still within four points of hillary clinton on questions of national security. why is that? >> because he exploits fear. >> what do you suppose is the reason that he is so excitable? >> he just has thin skin. >> first of all, dieing to get your reaction to michelle obama's speech. >> michelle obama is like a prophet on the mountain. >> no matter what condition he was in, he still has this spirit and that humor burning inside of him. >> oh my goodness, that is
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great. a legend yourself, sir, thank you for taking the time to be with us. we really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you, sugar, it was fun talking to you. >> one of the groups that has created donald trump is the congress, the republican congress. >> if i ask you a question about donald trump, and you give me an answer about hillary clinton, i think it's fair for the people who are watching the show to come to the conclusion that either, a, you don't know the answer to my question, b, the answer to my question would not help your candidate, or three, you're not here to answer my question, you're here to give talking points that help your candidate. by the time we're on on saturdays and sundays, you know, the news of the week has already happened. so basically i'm the stand-in for you. i'm the stand-in for the viewer whose spe the entire week going you'v got to be kidding me and screaming at activitynd throwing their socks at the tv. i will throw socks at the tv for you on the air two days a week and observe how ridiculous it
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is. >> you have been one of the smartest, best-informed and most acutely observant voices in any media on this election this year. you've always been great. and i've always been a fan, but on this election, something's happened and you have really just hit your stride in a way that you've become utterly indispensable. >> i know you are, but what am i. let's play hardball. i'm joy reid, well deserved night off tonight. >> you're going to have truck ta co. trucks at every corner -- >> wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on a second -- with 74 days to go. where can things possibly go from here? >> let's bring in our friend, joy reid for her view of what we have heard thus far, joy. >> this has been quite a night. it was a stunning debate that would have been much more fitting in the third world than it was in the united states of america. >> to that point, joy, by the way, you're not going to get out of st. louis tonight without somebody buying you a beer.
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so prepare yourself. you're a fan favorite. >> and coming up, the 2016 election was an ugly televised brawl. our next guest has seen quite a few of those in his time. stay with us.
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welcome back. the 2016 election look ld like something out of a reality television show. actually it was literally something and someone out of a reality television show and the biggest response that we got to any interstlu we did on a.m. joy this year was with the king of reality tv, jerry springer. the interview happened the day after america saw this for the first time. >> i gotta use some tick tacks in case of start kissing her. i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. they let you do. you can do anything. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> mr. springer, sir, great to talk to you. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me, joy.
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>> i want you to download your thoughts on last 48 hours of news. never in my life, and i've been following politics since i was a nerdy teenager did i ever think that we would be talking about groping, forced kissing, vulgarity, and the -- the potential president of the united states in the same sentence. your thoughts? >> yeah, well, first of i would say, you know, people always are asking me where do you find the guests of your show. and my answer now is at the trump tower. that's where you find them. what makes -- what happened last night, the tapes we saw last night, it reminds me for those of us old enough to remember, during the watergate era when people were saying all these thgs about nixon, but people were sll supporting him, then suddenly at the hearings, alexander butterfield says wait, we have the tapes. we recorded everything that was going on. and once people heard those
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tapes, once people read what exactly his words were, that was the beginning of the end. and then barry goldwater and other senators went to nixon and said you've got to step down. >> but jerry -- >> so what happened with all of this is once people see it, now they can't deny it anymore. trump is who he is. and we should have known that. >> and the we should have known that is the point i want to get to. we have heard countless priorities of the superpakistan, the clinton campaign, women, you've got to treat them like s. all you need in life is a nice piece of a. his vulgarity has been on tape for a year. people know who this guy is. this has not been a secret. why is this particular tape so much more insend area for republicans than all of that past stuff? what he just said about iowa lease ya machado. . >> i don't think these are just words. in this tape, he is not just
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using bad language or insults. in this tape, he is driep describing what he does. this is action, not just words. and this is what took it over the line. he talks about what he does to women. not just using bad words or offcolored jokes. this isn't locker room banter. this is admitting, on tape, what you do to women. i'm a star. i can get her. i can grab her by her you know what and do whatever i want to her. this is what i do. well, if he says that's what he does, he shouldn't get anywhere near the white house. >> yeah. i mean we have reality television creep into our presidential politics obviously by way of donald trump, but it's not as if this is the first time that the thing has invaded sort of the politically secular. the 1992 presidential campaign was a lot about the pursuit of bill clinton's philandering and trying to make that an issue and it was salacious, and it was a change, right? people knew that john f. kennedy
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was a lady's man, but wasn't something that the press reported. '92 changed all of that. the impeachment of the president of the united states over infidelity changed all of that. have we reached a point where it is so gross, where it is sort of driven by this kind of stuff that you can't go back? >> yeah -- perhaps. but i think there's nothing on the other side of the ledger to say, well, he said that, but look, look at his great experience and office. look how much good he would do for the country. the fact is, i don't care if he ever did anything bad to a woman. this man has no business being president of the united states. he's never run anything that has to do with delivering social services. this man is totally incompetent to be president. let him be -- you know, he's better on tv than i am. yeah, i get him on television, but the white house? the leader of the free world? the very first job in politics is going to be -- oh, can i be
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president? can i be president? how little respect do we have for our country that we honestly believe that we will turn over our country to a man that knows nothing about world affairs, how you deliver social services, and in his heart, has never been about i want to make lives better for other people. everything he's accomplished has been for himself. where, in his 70 years, has he made life better for other people? as the purpose of what he's doing? i don't know why we have this discussion. how can trump be president of the united states? come on. it's crazy. it's really crazy. >> yeah. well jerry springer, i thank you so much for being here not only talk show host, but you are a follower of politics and former politician yourself. appreciate your thoughts. appreciate you being here. >> wow. he was hot fire. all right. a week before the election of our very first reality show president, i had the opportunity to sit down with legendary film maker michael moore. his movie michael moore in
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trumpland looked at white working class voters in ohio and their love for donald trump. >> so i'm a big fan of your work. and so watching each of your films is kind of an adventure and i feel ties them altogether. i wrote down in my notes as i was watching trumpland pathy. you have this empathy for your subjects, really no matter what the subject is, and in this case, you're in wilmington, ohio, and sort of the heart of trump country. the way that you approached the trump voters who were in your audience was from a position of empathy. how does one in this noxious, toxic environment deal with trump voters from a position of empathy? >> well, i've never been asked that question. that's a great question. i think it's because i believe my basic philosophical belief is that we're all americans. and we're all on the same boat, and we're going to sink or swim together. and i'd rather with not sink. and i think that we can have our
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differences, and still realize that we share -- we probably have more in common than not. i know we have more in common or not. all want good schools, we to want breathe clean air. we don't want kids taking guns into schools. those basic things, right. and the things we don't agree on, like i said, in the film, if you don't believe in gay marriage, don't get gay married. if you are against abortion, don't have one. if i don't like guns, i'm not going to own one. you know, you want to own one, you can own one, just be safe with it, lock it up so the kids don't get it. >> you did some fun things with like some of the fears that people -- particularly trump voters have about our culture now. you have this concede where the mexican voters up in the balcony behind a wall, the muslim voters up in the top where there was a drone going to fly over. you did fun things like that, and you talked guns, the idea that, you know, only women, if only women owned guns, we'd have less violence. and what i found remarkable,
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nobody walked out. nobody booed. and you actually got people to laugh at that. how, how? >> i don't know? i read the new yorker review, the movie, and i was reading this, i was learning through them about my own movie i didn't realize. but he was saying the same thing you just said. that how on earth were fourferent constituencies in the audience,rump voters, hillary voters, there were greens and bernie people and people said we're not voting at all. and the whole show is trying to reach all four groups at the same time and have none of them leave. you know, i don't -- as i sit here -- i've got to watch it a few more times to figure out what i did. it's true, they didn't walk out. especially the trump guys. you see them at the beginning of the film. they're all like this, you know, but they start to warm up. and i think humor is a great vehicle by which to try and reach people. and so, you know, and i didn't -- i didn't make fun of them as trump voters.
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yeah, i went after trump, but not them. it's kind of like -- when hillary said that about the basket of deplorables. i actually do -- i agreed with her. if you are racist, if you are sex ix, that's the deplorable. and that is a correct term. the thing i didn't agree on is that when she said they were ir redeemable. that, you know, i really want to believe that no one is without redemption. that, you know, it's possible to reach just about anybody. and so, i wanted to reach out to them. and by the end of the show, they were -- they we ki of into it. now granted, a lot of the men were there with their wooif ts and girlfriends for hillary and they couldn't leave. >> i think this is where people get really confounded by really republican voters and trump voters. you talk about the american brexit states, michigan, pennsylvania, ohio, they are hurting, they feel like the economy is not working for them, but they're choosing a guy who bought chinese steel, not american steel, whose health
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care plan is essentially to go back to the old system where you can be discriminated and health savings accounts. who has the money for that? how do you explain the irony of those american brexiteers really choosing somebody that's never chosen the little guy in his life? >> and it's just like in england. that white working class of industrial england was so angry, rightfully so, at their condition, you know, losing their jobs, no longer a part of the middle class, and they wanted to toss a bomb into the system. legally. by going to vote. and sending a message to leaving europe. then a few days after when their economy practically crashed, they're like, oh, well maybe that was too strong of a message. and that's what's going to happen here. i mean, i grew up in michigan, i live in michigan, i am that. i am an angry white guy over the age of 35. so, so -- and i have a high school education. i am as perfect demographic. and so all these guys i grew up
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with, and they are mostly guys, not all, but and i say to them, dudes, you know, you have every right to upset. but this is not the way, the ballot is not an anger management tool. you don't go in there next tuesday. there are other ways to send a message. organize politically, we need that fight of income inequality is going to be with us as clinton's president. and i will work with you. i will be there. i'll have your back on this. and bernie does and other people do too. we are not going away. but, don't do this on tuesday because this man is a fraud. he's giving you a complete snow job. you haven't read his proposals, you just hear what he says and it sounds good because he has such a brazen -- i don't give a damn what anybody thinks. and, you know -- you're better than that. that's what i tell them. you're better than that. and question fight this in a different way. and really, are we that -- are we that inept that we need
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donald j. trump as our method? to fight the system and to get the things we need? no, come on. >> michael moore. up next, donald trump is trying to whitewash history, but "a.m. joy" will never let him live down what he said about president barack obama. >> because you are so smart, because you are so in the know, because you are the master of your domain and you can do anything, you are watching joy reid on "a.m. joy." you're a smart cookie. walked around the shelter, no intention of adopting. he was the very last kennel in the very last row. emaciated.
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five years ago donald trump built hisationed political career on one big lie. that our first black president wasn't born in the united states. and was thus ineligible to be president. toward the enof the campaign, trump triedo wriggle out of his conspiracy theory lie by throwing a press kochbs that was television commercial for his d.c. hotel. let's look at this fraudulent path. one that he has never apologized for. >> are you a birther, donald?
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>> let me just tel you this, i was a really good student at the best school, i'm like a smart guy, okay. they make these birthers into the worst. why doesn't he show his birth certificate? three weeks ago, i thought he was probably born in this country, and now after i much bigger doubt than before. he doesn't have a birth certificate or he hasn't shown it. he has called a sefrt of live birth a birth certificate is not even close. a certificate of live birth is not even signed by anybody. >> if the state of hawaii says this is official, he was born in hawaii, on this date, here it is, why do you deny that? >> a lot of people do not think it was an authentic certificate. >> how can you say that if -- >> report it, wolf, but many people do not think it was authentic. >> donald, you're beginning to sound a little ridiculous -- i have to tell you. >> no, i think you are, wolf. >> why still question he was born in the united states, do you? >> i had no idea. >> you don't believe him?
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>> i'd love to believe him. i'll tell you what -- well, i don't know, was there a birth certificate, you tell me. >> a few years ago, you led the birther movement. you sent investigators out to thoi find out whether or not obama was not born here. >> according to you it's not true, i don't know. >> he released his birth certificate. zbld if that you believe, that's fine, it's an old subject. >> do you accept that president obama was born in the united states? >> i really don't know. i don't know why he wouldn't agree to release his records, but honestly, i don't want to get into it. >> do you regret bringing it up? >> i tell you, i don't talk about it. >> you think your birther position has hurt you among african americans? >> i don't know. i have no idea. i don't even talk about it anymore, bill. >> when is he going to say that this president is legitite? this is a fundamental question, mr. mayor. is the president of the united states legitimate or not?
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double it? if you believe it, why doesn't your candidate state it? >> we all believe it. >> why won't he come out and own that position that yes president obama was born here. i was wrong to go with the birthers? >> so he believes president obama was born here. >> eventually donald trump did come around, but only after falsely blaming hillary clinton for starting the birther lie in the first place. she didn't. and he is still never apologized. but coming up, white working class voters shocked the experts in 2016. after the break, my trip to a steel-working town in july. >> i love joy reid, thanks for watching "a.m. joy."
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good morning, and happy new year to you. i'm francis with the hour's top stories.
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the gunman still remains at large in the istanbul nightclub attack. the white house issued a statement strongly condemning what it calls a horrific terrorist attack, and offering numerous assistance to turkey. last night president-elect donald trump faced reporters outside a new year's eve party outside his mar-a-lago and weighed in on a possible russian hacking. >> i know a lot about hacking. hacking is a very hard thing to prof. it could be somebody else. and i also know things that other people don't know. and, so, they cannot be sure of this situation. and in time's square at midnight as new york rang in the new year with an estimated crowd of one million people. queen elizabeth had to skip a church service because of a heavy cold. we send you back to "a.m. joy." welcome back to the best of "a.m. joy." the 2016 election shocked the
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american political system like never before. states like pennsylvania and wisconsin voted for a republican for the first time in nearly a generation. in the state of ohio, donald trump convinced white working class voters thate was on their side. in july, i went to the depressed steel-working town of lorraine, ohio, to talk to some of these voters. in the 1970s, lorain, ohio, 30 miles from cleveland was a boom town. it assembled 40 vans, before it thunderbird and the mercury cougar. creating thousands of good-paying, blue collar jobs. even after the ford plant closed in 2005, the town was anchored by two big steel plants, u.s. steel, and republic steel that have been around since the 1890s. but all of that has changed. so i want to start out by asking you guys to raise your hand if you work or ever worked at u.s. steel.
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all right. now raise your hand if you've ever worked or work at republic steel. all right. now i want you to raise your hand if you still work at either of those places. one guy. lee simons was recently forced to retired when republic steel shut down operations. shedding 200 jobs. >> when i grew up, i thought it was a place that was going to be there forever. when i personally started in the plant, we had 8,300 people working. >> went from manufacturing to dollar stores. that's the job, dollar stores. >> driving through this town of 64,000 people, it's hard to miss the number of dollar stores. >> at the height of it, lorain was growing fast. and the future looked bright for them. >> when we came to the american legion hall in the lorain and sat down, all of whom voted for barack obama in 2008 and six out seven of them voted for the
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president aga in 2012, we asked them who they thought w to blame for the way things are today. seven years after the auto-bailout that saved detroit and that was supposed to help steel towns like lorain. nafta and other free trade deals, but tim blake, a third generation steel worker,orced to retire from republic steel after 35 years, said the slide began well before the 1994 trade pact with mexico and canada. >> i wrote a song in 1982, and i recently just put it back out there, and 34 years later, exactly the same thing happened. ♪ well they're shutting down our factories ♪ ♪ bringing steel from overseas, turn their back on this hard working town ♪ >> you know, when we were working in the middle of clinton, president clinton was offic gs were working. and so we would support him even though you may not agree with
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nafta, we were working, but then you slowly started seeing the jobs disappear. and then it starts trickle down effect, and then keeps going on. and now, it continues, and now like you said, the tpp, and we are like, there's nothing left of us. there is no steel manufacturing being done in lorain at all. ♪ and i guess that i was born >> after o trip to lo, ohio, we made a stop in philadelphia, talked to a different focus group of voters. when donald trump says make america great, jack, in your view, when is he talking about that america was great? >> i think, i believe him when he says make america great again for everyone. >> when do you think he was talking about it was great. >> i don't think there's a specific time. he's talking about the concept of greatness. he's talking about the concept of america where -- we were talking about this earlier, actually, the 25 greatest moments in history. was that all history or just recent? >> last 100 years.
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>> so in the last 100 years, he says make america great again. >> america came together t solve big problems. he talked about -- we talked about world war ii. we talked about the civil rights movement. absolutely. times where america put these divisions and this us versus them mentality aside. >> civil rights movement may not have been so unified. >> you're right, we eventually got there. >> lyndon johnson vetoed that bill three times while the republicans passed it. >> no, the civil rights -- no. no. he actually pushed -- he didn't. we'll go back over this later. when you hear -- lyndon didn't sign it. >> wow. >> no, no, it's okay, when you hear make america great again, what do you hear? >> what i think when i hear him say, you know, we want to take our country back or we want to
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make america great again. there were times when i wasn't allowed to sit here. women were not allowed to speak. so when i hear that, that's for me. that's what i think. i think taking it back from, who, who are we taking it back from? why isn't it great now? because we have a black president. >> wow. >> and about to have a female president. so it's notoing to be great because we represent the world now? to me we represent the world, now. other countries look -- the people in charge look like everybody's in this room. >> wow. >> let's go to raheem. >> i would just caution everyone, because this is something that i've been pushing that is very -- to me is important. whoever is elected, half the people want them and half the people don't want them. so, and that's always, you have the government for everyone. and at the end of the day, you know, it mightound corny, but we are all americans. and we don't have to necessarily agree on everything, but we have to agree on the future of
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america. and something that's missing in this conversation. and it's missing in the conversation when you have, take these hard lies and you demonize everybody on the other side. like, as if barack obama never done anything right. or as if donald trump never done anything right. this is ridiculous. and i think it's really childish. and i think we have to grow up our conscience about politics and so we can have a better america because at the end of the day, we going to have children who are going to come here after us and what are they going to inherit? it's just ridiculous. >> i think everybody ascribes to that comment whatever it is that they think about this candidate. i am, as you heard, i really undecided as to where i'm voting in november, but i will say is that i think i share that sentiment that americans lost it's footing in the world stage. that our president, president obama talked about leading from behind. and i think we've succeeded that
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the and i think the world wants us to leave from in front where there is the economy, whether it's on large world decisions, whether it's on the military. and when i think he says make america great, what he is harkening back to is the sense that we were world leaders that were appreciated for the stance that we took in the world. and wanting to take us back to that place where we had that kind of moral authority and military authority. that people want. >> and up next. sometimes pictures speak louder than words. stay with us.
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many of characterized this election season as divisive and nasty to mark the words of one of our president-elect. here on "a.m. joy," we did manage to find some common ground, even with those we disagreed with most. you sometimes had to look high and low for those commonalities, but we almost always managed to find them. with a glance to the side. no, there isn't. >> the l.a. times, joy, the l.a.
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times -- >> okay. >> tracking poll, a tracking poll every day -- >> wait, hold on, we're going to talk with the substance of it. >> what aaron reid tried to do, you smeared me. >> what happened is the victims of the crime or people afraid of crime. what hillary clinton's been doing is bringing in millennials. >> who felt disinfranchised over the past 50 years and do almost -- >> sir, sir, sir, no. nope. no. les go to katy ter. >> wow. >> katy. i have a question for you, joy before we go. >> we don't have a lot of time. >> how manies have you have -- >> you didn't let me say anything positive. >> give us that. i understand you want to do that. >> fact check, fact you check it out. >> it's here. >> my head hurts. >> eight minutes long -- >> sir. >> joy, 50% -- planned parenthood is a -- good
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gracious. >> sir. >> hillary clinton is disqualified for serving as our commander in chief -- >> i think it's my turn. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. >> trying to get -- >> black person on the supreme court and clarence thomas and colin sit -- >> i'm sorry. go ahead. >> if we're not for the republican party, we would not even be free right now. >>okay. >> the public understands that this is a bomb shell. >> i don't care what carl says. >> really? >> sir, sir, sir -- >> you can't keep the government. >> i respect you, but we are out of time. >> oh my god. next up, "a.m. joy" voyages to the final frontier. >> good morning, i'm george takei and you're watching "a.m. joy." quit smoking. but when we brought our daughter home, that was it. now have nicoderm cq. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent your urge to smoke all day.
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year i had the chance to boldly go where many have gone before, the star trek convention. engage. all right fellow geeks, we are here at star trek mission new york. we're going to talk to people who are walking around dressed as fabulous characters, i'm in case you couldn't tell, and we're going to have a great time. all right, we are here talking to adam who was of course the son-in-law of the great, legendary, leonard. in your view, what was the importance of star trek? >> it's a positive view of the future that we're going to have a future. that the human race will still be around and we'll be working gether forhe common good. >> why do you suppose that spok
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and captain kirk are such good iends? >> opposites attract. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> uh-oh. that's not a good sign. >> what was your favorite star trek character? >> i'm the captain of the ship. >> perfect. >> so it turns out i am not the only one here at the star trek con. there are three of us, and they are so fabulous. what inspired you to come today as you were? i grew up watching star trek, sitting on the living room floor, watching the original series. like a little girl watching her and wanting to be her. like who wouldn't watch and want to be her? >> is there anything better/geekier than combining star trek and sherlock holmes? >> probably not, but here we are. >> phasers on stun, everyone. how long did it take you to get
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yourself together? you look fabulous. >> really like ten minutes. >> you woke up like this? >> pretty much. >> the stars on the sun and nobody who works in my field that doesn't think there's life out there. >> we're not alone? >> why would we study this if we didn't think there was life out there? >> listen to me, i'm the captain of the ship, i'm the captain of the ship. what's your fifrt thing about star trek? >> probably the hopefulness, the peace that something hopeful to look forward to. that the future might be better than what we live in today. >> i have a question for you, joy, what was it like to sit in the chair? >> i felt immense power. is your baby wearing that? >> she is. >> isn't way better than anybody kpels. >> i think she should be running the ship. >> that's the right answer. because you're so logical. live long and prosper. >> live long and prosper. okay. the only thing that could possibly be in the same galaxy
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as a star trek convention is a trip to the one and only new york comic-con. we are here at new york comic-con, i'm ready toplay. i've got it here in the bag. got my sword, got my crew and we're ready to go. let's go inside. let's go. why do people come here? >> i think, you know, it's cool to be a nerd. i think in the past people were closeted and they're at their and hiding their figures because thaw didn't want anyone to know. now it's cool and these shows give people an opportunity to be with the legacy of stuff they're going to do. this is our 11th event. we've taken every square inch, we have panels going on friday and saturday. we have ballrooms so that we can give people more content. >> i am here with my super producer, lorraine, and we are going to go on the main floor. we're going to see plays and
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talk to people. >> captain marvel. >> who would your captain marvel vote for in this election? >> probably hillary. >> probably hillary. okay. >> vote for trump which is very bad ideaed. >> i think fin, i think at first he would to want go with trump, then he would side with hillary, i think in the end he'd be like, whatever. >> oh my god, we support donald trump. donald trump totally backs the illumintati, other worldly beingings. we're on board with that. >> do you think he would have brexited. >> he's probably on the fence. he was looking to bring everything together and then rule it under one iron fist. brexit goes against his plans. >> who would donald trump be in ghost busters? >> oh, i'd say he's got to be walter peck, the guy who shuts down the containment unit. >> love to compare him to lex luther. you want to say something like swamp thing, swamp thing is an amazing character. maybe the juggernaut from the
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x-men. just relentless and irritating. knocking this down left and right. don't care for anybody but mself. >> what about hillary clinton? >> is it mean to say like rogue you can't touch her without dying. >> she might be like the gate keeper. like the dana barrett from the old one. >> wonder woman. >> that'd be good. >> who would storm vote for? >> of course hillary clinton. that's my girl. female power. this is what it's about. being strong women. >> hillary. >> that man, you know what, george clooney, underrated. >> i am here with adam quest, the politics today sort of wig you out a little bit? >> we have found trump dead pool. >> i want to make it right again. >> what about your foreign policy?
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>> china. >> china. >> trade policy. >> china. >> i see a theme here. >> no, no you don't. >> your character, what? >> right. >> if he was in this universe, who would he vote for for president? >> hillary supporter. mainly for the hair, but then he would have shipped it over to hillary, i think archer, not approach that, just a fly vote. >> it'll be funny later. >> jill stein, and then would vote for hillary clinton. she would literally circle hillary's name with a marker and then scratch under it so that like all the other names were el legible. he would pull that out with her big man hands. >> coming up, the 2016 election showed us what a fast free america looked like. next up, fight night. >> hi, this is michael moore, and i want to encourage you to watch "a.m. joy." on the other channels you get
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good morning, and welcome back to our very special best of "a.m. joy" year end speck tack loor. it's a privilege to have this platform to bring you the most important stories in politics for four hours every week. it's also a responsibility that we here at a.m. joy take very seriously. as we head into the next four years, it's up to us in the media to relentlessly and tirelessly bring you the truth and to remind you whenever it's warranted that this trump presidency is anything but normal. and even in a post-factual administration, the thing is facts do matter. it's important for those of us in the media to challenge every falsehood, mistruth, and straight up lie whenever we can. especially when they come from our very own guests. and when you have donald trump
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surrogates and supporters on, well, it's the opportunity comes up quite a bit. and we can only imagine that there will be plenty more opportunities over the next four years. >> we have civil rights because of republicans. so please stop that -- >> that's interesting. yeah, exactly. i think that the reason that african americans have civil rights is because african americans fought for them. thank you for giving -- >> passed it when democrats -- >> no, that's not true either. >> what does that say about you staying there for the entire term -- >> randall's not asking to be president of the united states. >> there is a point that he has to acknowledge that he stayed. >> hold on a second. >> what problems do you have to back it up? >> my culture is a dominant culture. and it's important and it's causing problems. if you don't do something about it, you're going to have taco trucks at every corner. >> wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, i'm sorry, hold on a second. >> birtherism is a policy -- >> anchor babies.
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absolutely. >> excuse me. what did you just say? >> you're talking about anchor babies. >> no, birtherism, i'm talking about donald trump doubting that the president of the united states is an american, accusing him of faking his birth certificate. this is the -- >> i didn't realize that was a policy. >> african american judge who might be offended by birtherism could not preside over a case involving donald trump if they were offended -- >> that doesn't make any sense at all whatsoever. black people are not offended because maybe somebody was or was not born in this country. barack obama is not the standard bearer. >> as i told you, they have mandarins in the audience, hispanics in the audience. >> the opposite of demographic panic. it has nothing to do -- >> asian americans. not mandarin. >> it has nothing to do with demographics. >> but you throw back language, it's not 1913, they're called asian americans, not mandarins. >> the progressives a going to lose their influence, okay, their power and their control of
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the american people's minds and you're in a panic state right now with these people making absolutely crazy accusations. >> well, carl, thank you very much. but thank you for being on. not on vladimir putin's side, and i like that stan, thank you very much. >> i would say they're nationalist, i don't know that they're white nationalists. milo is certain the most known member of the alt-right. he happens to be incredibly gay and public about it. >> can't be a white nationalist. you can't be gay and a white nationalist, because he can. >> it argues against the idea that it's a inheritly -- >> what does being gay have to do it? >> it's a retrogay nationalist white southern movement. >> before you go there. we have to put a pin in there. >> i'm going to stop you right there, you are hispanic, are you comfortable with that term illega illegals. that is a pa jortive to a lot of people. >> you know what why? words matter. >> they do. >> if you do something that is
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against the law, it's illegal. if you go into a store and you shoplift, you're not an undocumented holder of a good, you're a thief. >> do you consider a child who was brought into this country, the people who are eligible for doca who are children when they come here, you would label that person the equivalent of shoplifter or thief. >> no, because they had no choice. >> even a pastor cannot make shings up on the show. >> mr. trump has had a continued engagement and relationship with the african american community. and -- >> going back to when they opened up to his properties and florida to african americans to choose when he opened up the property to reverend jesse jackson when they meet an office space. >> maybe i can ask to get a talk with reverend jackson to let him respond. you made him a kwau sigh endorser of donald trump in your remarks. reverend jackson, are you there? >> indeed, how are you today? >> i'm wonderful, happy sunday to you, sir. >> we are winning talking about
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ideas and what the left does wh they don't to want talk ideas or intellectual ideas they smear and name call. >> what are the intellectual ideas that you are quote/unquote winning on? >> on tax reform? on school choice, on security at home and abroad. >> is that mainly what he talks about at his rallies? >> absolutely. it absolutely is. >> let me ask you this -- hold on, hold on steve, what about school reform and school choice got somebody to cold caulk a 60 something-year-old woman with an oxygen. >> i'm not going to explain the actions of one idiot out of tens of thousands that show up at a rally. david duke, you keep bringing him up -- we have denounced him over and over again -- >> not really. >> mike pence absolutely repudiates his ideas. >> he couldn't call him deplorable. >> we don't name call the american people.
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because we have respect -- we have respect -- >> for david duke. >> we respect -- no, we have respect -- >> but you can't call him deplorable. >> we don't view anyone as irredeemable. >> david duke? okay. >> apples for apples. >> reporter: is that apples for apples? you're talking about a wife who was the victim of her husband's infidelity, you're comparing that to donald trump who himself has said women are pigs, dogs, disgusting. i mean this would be the president of the united states. you don't -- what conservative values does donald trump have in your vie if he speaks that way about women up to and including 48 hours. >> well, what can i tell you with regards to that, that's just obviously -- that's part of his transparency. i don't to want defend that because i don't want -- i'm getting offended here on social media as it is -- >> i'm glad. that makes me happy. >> donald trump is going to fight hard. and he's going to negotiate the best deal for the american people. >> that is a great campaign slogan, it's not an answer to my
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question. i want to play -- >> i want to answer the question. >> you want somebody who knows thousand fight for you. >> but you're giving me slogans, you're not answering my questions. >> slogans, i believe in what donald trump is going to do for america. >> great, we'll stipulate that. >> if you want me to talk policy which is very, you know, an intelligent thing to want to do, don't you wish your candidate would talk policy? >> here's the -- >> just a yes or no question, do you think your candidate -- >> here's the hashtag trump policy challenge. hundred bucks to anybody on the set of msnbc that can get through a segment without pivoting to other stuff than policy. and i'll tell you what -- >> you should offer that to your candidate. >> you're not blaming yourself. >> we didn't give his speech. >> you made a choice today -- >> to listen to his speech. >> and instead of going to nafta, immigration, new ships for the navy -- >> because that isn't what he talked about. >> no, you hold on. >> you didn't finish. >> i'm going to let you answer.
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we're not going to cross talk. one of us is going to talk at a time. and when it's your turn -- >> answer the question opposed to me. >> before you answer your answer, i'm going to oppose this, this is not perfect for people who studied philosophy, but if i ask you a question about donald trump, and you give me an answer about hillary clinton, i think it's fair for the people who are watching this show to come to the conclusion that either, a, you don't know the answer to my question, b, the answer to my question would not help your candidate, or three, you're not here to answer my question -- >> joy, i did answer your question. >> to help your candidate. now i'm going ask you get again. >> sure. >> why would donald trump leak what turned out to be completely -- >> now it's a leak, joy. >> from the brief, he was given -- >> what information did he leak, joy? >> he claims that he heard the advisor say -- >> no he didn't. >> he read their body language. >> he didn't claim that. >> should we flay again? can we rerack what donald trump said about the briefing that he
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had. >> i have pretty good with the body language, i could tell they were not happy. our leaders did not follow what they were recommending. >> why would donald trump do that? >> why would he say that he read their body language? because that's what he did. he was not in the briefings. donald trump was -- >> with all do respect, you know, i don't have to be in th room because i've done it before. >> so now you're saying -- >> boras, boras, don't make me cut your mike. when malcolm is talking, you are not. >> unfortunately we're out of time. >> we are out -- >> thank you. >> well, all right. coming up. sit down and take notes, kanye, we're going to take a look at how hip hop has been at the forefront of progressive social change in this country for a quarter century. >> check this out, and you're watching joy reid on a.m. joy. ♪
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one of the coolest things about my job, you get to talk to and meet people you've been a fan of your years. and this election afforded me the opportunity to talk to the legendary chuck dee. the public enemy founder joined me in august to talk abt the 25th anniversary of the crown heights riots. chuck, thank you so much for being here. i appreciate it. >> thank you, joy. i owe you one, right, there you go. >> there you go. there you go. i want to talk about a -- this was really the sound track for those of us who sort of formative years, that period in our history, what do you think the role was of hip hop in terms of the activism? because you guys were really out in the front lines. what was your role at that time? >> well, especially what groups
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like x clan who are from brooklyn and very much on the front lines when you're talking about the also have people like from brooklyn and they just some of the inkwek weties and the region at that particular time. new york has an unusual dynamic. people had been cheeked for a long time. it's a lot of water there. the first signs of white flight in brooklyn. and white flight wassen okay we can own the property, but not the maintenance of the area like we kept it before. and the communities within the communities, leaned up against
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each other. and there was a large disparity of as far as the have and have notes just in that one region. it was bound to be a powder keg when the treatment was on stage at that time. so the music kind of spoke to like hey, let's level this out. let's have everybody treated equally instead of this quote/unquote inequity and mayor jenkins caught a bad one on that because he had to respond to the communities that were, you know, tight together. and we had asked basically say, hey, us as a black community have to be as fight as these other communities putting the pressure on the mayor. so he wa just caught in the middle of that. so the music spoke to people at the time. as they stand up and be strong and be a united, and fortunately, fear of black community at that time was more prevalent in new york city because everybody in new york looks at each other and mass transit goes away together in droves, but the communication is
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what we ask for. >> and you know, obviously that period of time helped the rise of one rudy giuliani who essentially demonized jenkins, blamed him for the kind of violence that he was essentially always siding to the african american community exclusively. when you see somebody like giuliani out there right now pining about african american communities the way he does, just what do you think as a new yorker? as somebody who lived through that period with him? >> adolf, rudolph. i mean, really it's like -- it's just lame to actually say, you know what, i'm going to run for something because the guy that -- or the woman rather that proceeded me just was too soft and cared about everybody and not the way i'm going actually speak about. i'm going to clean it up, but to clean it up usually meant in those type of situations like get rid of people, not answer to people that, you know, consider
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important. not consider a community important. not even considered that. and locked them up. and in a political financial system that you are connected to. so, it's typical. >> lastly, would you like to see more hip hop artists and others that are very active in terms of speaking out about issues of inequity of injustice, would you like to see hip hop more on the front lines like he was back in the day? >> well, i'm involved with profits of rage which is probably one of the biggest mash mix rock, rap situations in the country right now. and cypress hill raised against the machine in public enemy members came up to see if we could make america rage again. and just making america rage again, just to think again. and so, we're going up with this campaign, camp, pain to answer
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to the pain of people with music thought and political message and we hope that rap music will follow and also rock music would follow, just mess explosion of culture. >> yep, we we will definitely be paying attention. it was an honor to talk to you, thank you so much for being here. appreciate it. >> thank you so much, joy. appreciate you. >> all right, take care, thanks. and next up, one of the hottest buzz words during the 2016 campaign. (vo) a lifetime of your dog's nutritional needs... all in one. purina one. healthy energy, all in one. strong muscles, all in one.
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many in the mainstream media did their best to normalize donald trump throughout the election. nearly every time that trump said something horrific, they used one word to give us hope that he'd change. that he really wasn't that bad. turn. >> this is the time for him to pitt. >> to use the word pivot. >> to see that pivot. >> pivot. >> i do believe that mr. trump does still have time to right the ship.
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to start acting presidential. >> pivot. >> it's time to quick attacking various people that you've competed with or various minority groups in the country and get on message. >> pivot. >> we've all been waiting for donald trump 2.0, hn't arrived yet. but there's time between now and noveer for him to change his positions. >> i think it's time for him to look like a serious candidate for president. which means that you need to think before you speak. you need apologize when you make a mistake. and get on script. >> pivot. pivot. >> and pocahontas is not happy. she's the worst. you know, pocahontas -- i'm doing such a disservice to pocahontas. it's so unfair. >> i need you to start going. >> i can't believe that didn't
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work. >> oh, what did you mean when you said pivot?
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foreigners and dozens more injured. the attackers identity still unknown at this time. there's no claim of responsibility. new year's eve party at mar-a-lago, he discussed russia's interference in the election and offered advice on how to deal with sensitive material. >> if you have something really important, write it out and have it delivered by courier, the old fashioned way. because i'll tell you what, no computer is safe. times square at the stroke of midnight as new york rang in with an estimated crowd of one
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million people. we send you back to "a.m. joy." enjoy your new year's day. we lost so many notable people this year, but few were as iconic as prince and boxing legend mohamed ali. after prince's death in april at age 57, i had a chance to sit down with my colleague and friend who wrote one of the definitive books on the performer. i would die for you, why prince became an icon. we discussed prince's incredible legacy and his ability t transcend barriers. >> he was working with intersectionality before that was a thing. and he was playing with the gender roles and he's also playing with the racial roles, and the gender roles were shocking when he would come out in lace and heels and these sort of things and eye liner. i think the sisters, i mean, white, black, asian, all women, they understood, like, you know, oh he's down with us.
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you know, and sometimes men were like a little heteronormative. we don't understand, but we love him. he's getting lots of women so he must be cool. because he tells se of the early journalists, the vy first journalists that he's mixed. and you know how it goes in media. you come in for the sixth profile and ask all the questions that three other people have said he's mixed. >> he dunts ever say anything. his mother was not while the. he was from new orleans, people who met her, she was a black woman, but he wanted to play with that. because that was very shocking to people in the early '80s, i don't think that would be
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shocking to people now who've seen a lot of bi-rash or mixed starred, but at that time, that was part of what was shocking. >> one of the interesting things you're heard. i've done it myself, comparison of prince and michael jackson. they both sort of came out big time solo artists in 1979. as a kid, me as, you know, an elementary school going into junior high school, you were a prince or michael jackson. and i had to say prince was the bad boy. you know, i loved prince, liked michael jackson, but loved prince more. what was that relationship like? religion, what was that riflely about? >> total rivalry. think about 1982, thriller at 1999 come out within a month of each other. and 1999 was by far the greatest commercial success to date. it was two million before purple rain came out. this is double anything he'd ever done. moving upward, this is great, fifth best selling album of the year. michael jackson that year has the best selling album of all time. and prince is like, i've got to get to that. he's endlessly competitive and
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especially have this other black man who's singing and dancing and doing a similar sort of idi idiom, not hip hop, i can't compete with that, that's an entirely different thing, but i can compete with michael jackson. and we have to find a way. and i know at some point, michael jackson said prince's song called "i'm bad" and asked prince, will you get on this song and prince was so offended at the notion of michael jackson doing a song called "i'm bad" in a world where prince existed that he took the song, totally changed it, this is how you should have done it and sent it back to michael jackson which is a princely way of saying, eh -- >> not going to do it. prince also had a famous epic rivalry with the record labels. warner brothers music. and he really did break down a lot of barriers that we now see resurfacing in people like jay-z. talk about prince as an icon of really establishing owning your own art. >> yeah, that was really important to him. he wrote slave on the side of his face, and we can agree that
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maybe that was a bit too far. but he was talking about emancipation and not having his records owned by the label. he understood early on the importance and power of owning your own music. he also understood the power of the internet, extraordinary early. he was doing things that we would now call chatrooms, extremely early. like before google early, right. he understood the power of visuals, very early. in about 1982, when mtv was first blowing up, he was like, i got to be part of that. i'll start making videos. wait a minute, let's make a 90-minute video and that was the thing that catapulted him into the top level. >> out of time, quickly, hair, the change from the pressed hair to the of a row. quickly. >> i grew up on him, i like the straight hair. >> i like the pimp look. >> i think i'm coming out with the of a row, it was a great signifier that he was overt with his activism and black man.
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terrific book. "i would die for you." check it out and always good to see you. two months after prince, the most important and beloved public figures of the 20th vinch. i had a chance to discuss ally's legacy with big withers who performed during ali's 1974 rumble in the jungle. >> it was interesting because you had people that would normally never come in contact with each other. i mean and elsewhere would you get bud, norman, bb king, james brown, and the pointer sisters? they're not likely to show up in the same places, you know. >> yeah. >> so being -- with everybody being in that one place in one hotel, it was just interesting to watch the interaction and watching them get to know each othe >> yeah. >> you know. >> absolutely. also talk about, you know, even
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as the experience for yourself, being a young black american man going to the african continent in 1974, what was that experience like and how was ali and how were you guys received by people in zahir? >> well, ali was a rock star wherever he went. but i had met him in chicago when he couldn't fight, when he was barred. >> uh-huh. >> and i checked into this hotel and the guy said, mohamed ali is in town, i was joking i said well send him up to my room. five minutes later he shows up to my room with kid gavaland who was leblgd dare at this time. having had some previous contact with him and going over there, it was -- they met us at the plane and thewere dancing in the traditional african garb with the bells on their ankles
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and stuff, it was just nuts, you know, but it was a good kind of nuts. >> yeah. >> and the fascinating thing to mefuls that magic he had that drew people to him. and everybody wanted to be in his presence, you know? >> and you know, we talked about the controversies that as you said kept him from being able to fight for quite some time. at that time, as a young black man, as a musician, what were the pressures like from popular culture? kprt music and sports industry on someone like ali to get him to go along with the vietnam war? >> well, at first h couldn't pass the exam did get into the army. that was shaky. they lowered the standards so
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they couldraft him. i had spent nine yrs in the naefz during that time. and so, i understood where he was coming from. but, the fascinating thing was he had the nerve to do it. he overcame. >> we doejt see spectacles like that anymore. the way they were built up, the fact that they were internation international. what did that spectacle mean to the world of boxing and to making it, you know, a premier popular sport? >> well, let me give you an example. i remember reading that during his time, the super bowl was the second biggest event next to mohamed ali fight. >> wow. >> ali had that thing db the numbers became so large because
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he antagonized one half and the other people loved him. people showed up to see him win and people showed up to see him lose. so he had the whole, the whole board to draw from. and let's face it, i mean, there's just somebody like that comes along once. the fact that he was so positive and he talked all the time. and i used to wonder how can i guy expend so much energy talking and still have energy to fight? he talked before the fight, during the fight, after the fight, he would talk to anybody walking by so that energy always fascinated me. you know, how can i guy just constantly run his mouth like that? and he was very friendly, you know. >> and he was a master of marketing.
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but he really did pioneer this idea of creating a brand and self-marketing. is there another athlete in your view that has been able to do the equivalent of what mohamed ali was able to do back in the '60s and '70s? >> no, the rest of them just seem obnoxious, you know. he had a playful way that made him endearing. even though he was talking all the time, you know, you've seen people try, but nobody, nobody can pull that off. that's his thing. you know. and i think he was just naturally that way. and so anybody else knowing is putting it on. he was just born like that. >> sure. >> and one final question, you've told us great stories about ali. what's your greatest personal memory of him?
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and get me into this ali book signing because i would like to take some photo. we went over there and he wanted me to sew all these women were coming by and kissing him. if one more woman comes up and kisses you, you're going to have to give up that seat and speaking in kind of a mumble and he still had that sense of humor and he said i'm pimping. that's ali, no matter what condition, he still had that spirit and humor insidehim. >>hat is so great. thank you so much. bill withers.
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a legend yourself. thank you for taking the time to be with us. we really appreciate it. thank you. >> thank you. it was fun talking to you. >> all right, take care, have a great rest of the day. >> he called my sugar. coming up, some final thoughts on the election of 2016. don't go anywhere. >> you are watching one of the finest minds in the portfolio arena today. you are watching "a.m. joy."
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the 2016 lerks turned out the wrong way for the majority of americans and total control of the three branches of government to conservatives in the republican party. my first show after election reminded republicans what they've won. so republicans, donald trump, congratulations. you wonhe white house. hillary clinton won half a million more votes, but he won more electors. and that means that according to to the u.s. constitution, once the electoral college meets and votes, donald trump is going to officially be the president-elect. let that sink in, america. this man is going to be the president of the united states and the face of the country to
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the world. >> automatically attracted to people beautiful women. i just start kissing them. grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> great job, america. so now, to the 60 million people who voted for donald trump, and the nearly 100 million people who didn't bother to vote at all even though you were eligible, we here are going to tell you what you've won. donald trump now heads the republican party which controls all three branches of government. house, senate, and the white house. and the supreme court is poised to be filled by the new republican president. now you've given trump a man ultimately described as dangerous, and temperamentally unfit to be president and that's what conservative republicans said about him. you've given him control of the fbi, the cia, the nsa, the irs,
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ironic since he probably hasn't paid taxes in 18 years, not to mention dnes and nuclear apons. >> no longer have any excuse to not do the things they've been promising voters for decades. and trump has no excuse for not doing the things he promised during his campaign. and that means that once he gets to washington, trump will have to get really busy. he's promised to build a wall across the southern border. now that's going to require a appropriation from the republican congress? why wouldn't they do it? you wouldn't want trump voters punishing you for not keeping your promises right? mexico paying for it, it's not going to happen. you are going to have to pay for it. who have identified themselves to the federal government under the protection of president obama will be immediate risk of deportation once trump takes office. congress doesn't have to lift a finger to make this happen. trump can rescind the executive
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order and start the deportations through i.c.e. which he will control. and also for your local police departments, some have been enthusiastic about his candidacy. trump has vowed to repeal obamacare and replace it with something terrific. and pass a new repeal bill or simply send one of the bills already passed in the house to the republican-controlled senate and then to trump's desk. to fulfill the majority and mitch mcconnell thinks it's the end in congress. and find what happens next is that 22 million of you presumably many who voted for donald trump lose your insurance. that number could go even higher because now trump is saying he'll keep a provision of the law left by itself could force insurance companies out of business. we'll have more on that later in the show. trump is also vowed to institute a ban on any new muslim immigration to the u.s. and even tourism to the u.s. now if you're in a state with a
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large tourist economy like florida, you might want to start think about what that mean toes your state's bottom line. since meern, asian, and others offended by this idea might also rethink a visit to the united states in the trump era. meanwhile, the supreme court will now have an open lane to overturn roe v wade. meaning women may be refighting issues of legalized abortion and contraception state by state. for black lives matter activists and anyone who valued the civil rights division of theusce department as the protector of voting rights prepare to face giuliani time. of course rudy becomes secretary of state instead of attorney general as the rumor mill suggests he prefers. and then, hello world, he could be joined in the cabinet by pitch fork sheriff david clark as head of the department of homeland security. that would be interesting. and that's not to mention foreign policy where a pro-putin administration in the u.s. with a pro-putin administration in the u.s., a woman is now leader of the free world. no, not that woman, this woman.
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germany's angela americale. she is now all of that stands between russia and the global ambitions. we'll explain that in a bit. now that i've told you what you've won, trump america. what you've lost. you've lost the morality card. no longer can the u.s. go around lecturing the world about democracy because in our democracy, the person who got the most votes will not become the president. for the second time in the last three republican presidential victories, nor will the party that got the most votes control the house of representatives. again, we're required to accept this front to democracy because that's our system. but our acceptance doesn't make it any less undemocratic. and hey, maybe it's a good thing that we can no longer go around the world lecturing them about how to live. you've also lost the notion of an exceptional america. because as it turns out, we're just another western nation falling into the national forces sweeping across europe from brexit in the uk to france's lapenn. fueled and eked on by the russians and feeding on the fear
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of non-white and non-christian immigrants. we are not so different afterall. you've also lost the right to moralize to blue america about family values. we sincerely hope and pray tt your daughters and your sisters and your wives and all women and girls are never disrespected, never abused the way the next president of the united states has boasted about disrespecting and even sexual assaulting women including walking in on teenage pageant contestants while they're naked. when your sons and daughter asks you if little girls are as valuable as little boys or if they could imulate the president of the united states, we'll leave that to you to explain. and lastly, you've lost the right to ravel on about the party of lincoln and reagan. now the party of donald trump. the party of the t-right. you've ratified the vulgarity, his crassness, you saw exactly who and what he was and you chose it. you're going to have to own on.
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and to my friends in the media who are rushing to normalize trump, who your blithely calling on parents and teachers of scared latino and muslim kids and little boys and girls of color to come together and accept what's happening while trump ushers in and emboldened kkk and an alt-right that will have a place in the white house. nothing at all has changed about donald trump. nothing. he's still the same, historically unpopular person who's under criminal investigation over trump university, whose foundation was revealed to be a sham of self-dealing. whose campaigned the washington post reports was in direct contact with russian authorities, and whose aun known amounts of debt to unknown never seen in a president.w he's still the guy whose made cist statements that have offended every group in the u.s. he still the guy who said this -- >> automatically attracted to beautiful women. i just start kissing them.
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it's like a magnet. and when you're a star. they let you do it. you can do anything. >> whatever you want. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. >> we owe it to the country to cover him with clear, open isn normalized politics or the pageantry of succession. we need to cover the next president with the same cynicism that the current president was treated to and with the same zeal and skepticism and doggedness we expeanded on hillary's e-mails. given how unprecedented what is happening is, including his threats against the first amendment, maybe we need to cover him with more toughness and skepticism.
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breaking news at this hour from turkey, scene of the terror attack that claimed 39 lives. officials are developing a clearer picture of what happened at that istanbul nightclub in the hours after the clock struck a new year. good to be with you on this new year's day. onhis first day of 2017. here is the latest. a manhunt is on in turkey for the gunman who unleashed bullets in a crowded nightclub in istanbul. it happened shortly after midnight where 600 people were inside celebrating the new year. the gunman's identity is still unknown and eyewitness footage captured the immediate aftermath of the shooting and the panic that followed.


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