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>> rose: welcome to the program. i'm charlie rose. the program is "charlie rose: the week." just ahead, terror strikes in turkey. new challenges for the trump campaign. and comedian amy poehler improvises with the upright citizens brigade. >> you don't want to try to be funny. and when people try to be funny, they kind of disassociate from what real life is sometimes. and so it's it trying to stay grounded and real so that the first unusual thing in a scene is what you catch. >> rose: we will have those stories and more about what happened and what might happen. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide.
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captioning sponsored by rose communications >> rose: and so you began how? >> you establish a relationship. >> rose: is it luck at all or is it something else? >> philosophy, in many ways. >> rose: what's the object lesson here? >> europe is in absolute turmoil. >> rose: tell me the significance of the moment. this was the week the fallout continued over britain's vote to leave the european union. the investigation continues into the istanbul airport bombings. and iceland, the smallest nation ever to qualify for the tournament, scored a stunning upset of england in the european cup soccer semiphenyls. here are the sights and sound of the past seven days. basketball coach pat summitt dies at 64. >> and i have been so blessed to have great people in my life. ( sirens ) >> rose: suicide bombers hit the istanbul airport. >> the country's prime minister
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says islamic state is behind the attack. >> history and controversy as the pentagon lifts its ban on transgender service members. >> americans who want to serve should be afforded the opportunity to compete to do so. >> the u.s. supreme court striking down tough abortion resphrikses in texas. >> rose: ne new york's stonewall in becomes a national monument. >> it's about time. >> volkswagen to pay nearly $15 billion in the diesel emission scandal, the largest payout by a u.s. auto maker in history. >> the shocking british vote to leave the eu. released a wave of panic. >> i get to punch my global economic melted down card. ( laughter ) ( applause ) there you go. >> house republicans' final report into the 2012 terror attacks in benghazi revealed no new evidence of wrongdoing by secretary clinton. >> i think it's pretty clear it's time to move on? the the sound of silence.
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>> rose: is this the end of rhymein simon. >> the singer told the "new york times" shows about doesn't hold any interest for me, none. >> a crash on the track gets physical. >> they're going at it. this is going to be good here. >> and the fans are loving it ♪ let me hear your body talk, your body talk ♪ >> rose: we begin this week overseas. arrests continue in turkey afterred it's suicide bombings at the istanbul airport. the attacks killed at least 43 people and wounded hundreds more. no one has claimed responsibility but isis is widely suspected of being behind it all. we begin with ian bremmer. >> they think it's isis. they're obviously well coordinated attacks and a high-value target. but, of course, if you're erdogan right now, you are, of
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all of the g-20 economies, you're probably in the most geopolitical challenging position. >> rose: because? >> because you've got syrian war, which is not ending. you've got this kurdish crisis inside your country as well as increasingly moving towards independence in both syria and iraq has the potential to tear your country apart. have 2.5 million refugees sitting in turk they they're paying for and the, of course, one of thes reasons they continue to have bigger issues with terrorism every day, lots of foreign fighters coming back from syria and iraq. this is a witch's brew, and if you're president erdogan, who in on the best of days has challenges governing in a sustained way, you're not going to have an easy time of it. >> rose: who is next in what turkeyy does? >> two front. one they have to show they're fighting isis more effectively, that they're striking against them because they continue to
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see. >> rose: and they're closing their borders. >> look, over 14 terrorist attacks successful in turkey over the course of the last 12 months. and a bun of them, some of the most spectacular, have been at the hands of isis. >> rose: i want to go to turkey, istanbul, to richard english. richard, why didn't isis take credit for this? why wouldn't it be in their benefit to claim credit. >> primarily because turkey is an important home base for isis. it's an important staging ground. this airport, that was attacked, is the main gateway for isis to the world. so isis, when it has attacked in turkey in the past, it has done it to send a message to the turkish government-- "don't upset things. don't rock the boat. we are here." >> rose: also joining us stephen cook from washington with the council on foreign relations. stephen thank you for joining us.
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what would you add to what richard said or what would you said ask richard? >> i think it's important to understand that this is a pattern. and as richard pointed out, there is-- turkey is being targeted now. this is at least the 11th attack in turkey since last june, the sixth that can be potentially linked to isis. this is a problem that the turks are going to have for quite some time. some of is, of course, their own making. the irreconcilable differences between turkish nationalism and kurdish nationalism has exploded in turkey. and there is a real war going on in southeastern turkey between the p.k.k. and the turkish state. this is a country, a nato ally, a stable, prosperous place that is now suddenly manifestly unstable and it's going to be engaged in a three-front war for some time. >> rose: tell me what's the most important question you're in search of tonight, richard. >> ramadan still has about
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another week to go. we have already seen orlando carried out during ramadan. we saw that very personal, savage murder in france carried out by an isis-inspired militant taking up the ramadan call. we've seen this attack, and i just wonder what about those other militant who may already be deployed in turkey or choosing other targets abroad? what would be my question. >> rose: the question last week was will britain leave the european union? the question this week seems to be how messy will it get? boris johnson, who many thought would replace prime minister david cameron as the conservative leader has decide not to run. and jeremy corbin, the leader of britain's opposition labor party lost a vote of no can confidence with his party. who will lead britain's exit and
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when? it's something we've been talking about all week. here are zahnymetinbetoze, jerod baker, and tina brown. >> david cameron's resignation, we are in this complete chaos. so the idea of any kind of orderly path to this very, very complex matter now is so besmirched. >> rose: uncertain until at least what, october, november? >> there will be a new conservative leader by september 9. >> that's a long time in business life. that's a long time. >> these things take time. >> this may be one time when actually going slowly isn't so bad. i agree with you, tina, uncertainty is bad so you want to have clarity as a matter of fact possible. on the other hand, the europeans can't actually do anything until britain triggers article 50. until we do that, there's nothing very much that can happen. so if we take our time thinking about it, i actually think,
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frankly, once we have a new leader of the parties, almost certainly, we're going to have to have some laying out of what the the two parties see as the future in europe. and there will have to be another general election. this has to have some kind of mandate are from the british people, i think. you can't have a referendum which was won, clearly, but was won without any clarity about what comes next, be the only thing what drives this future relationship will be. >> rose: when might that take place? >> you know, your guess is as good as mine now, tony. i have given up predicting what will happen when. i would expect a general election sooner rather than later. >> time-wise it would be difficult. a new prime minister by early september. that prime minister could choose to call an immediate general election. it takes about six weeks to have one, so you could have one by the end of october but that's very, very tight. what would you be campaigning on? that prime minister will only have just taken office-- david cameron stepped aside.
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there laib new prime minister, we won't know-- he or she-- what kind of deal they want from europe. i think a general election before the five years. but i think what they want from the e.u., what they want from-- it will be hard. >> rose: zahny, who is going to be the new leader of the labor party? >> i don't know who is going to be the new leader. the names bandied about have included cooper, many others. who knows? if you ask me oned from morning would we be talking about a new labor leader right now, i would not have thought we would be this fast. so i don't know. >> rose: turning now to politics here at home, benghazi,
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waterboarding, hillary clinton's e-mails are back in the news. joining me from aspen, colorado, is politico's mike allen. so what's the hot topic this where you gather all these really interesting people? >> charlie, we're here at the aspens ideas festival. people talk about its as d.c. summer camp but i think of it as a ar reunion for a really interesting college. we knot an amazing turnout for the topic, "why trump?" >> rose: is his campaign growing up? >> his campaign is showing signs of maturing. but republicans worry that it's not fast enough. so, charlie, it's been 59 days since donald trump became the presumptive republican nom no, since he won indian, and in that time, so little has been done. there's so lelgt staff, so little infrastructure in the state, so little has been done to expand the map or develop a message.
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charlie, this week we saw signs of those things, with paul manafort clearly in charge of the campaign. now the campaign is taking that more seriously. and this probably happened on a lot of your viewers-- all of a sudden this week my mailbox is barraged with e-mail solicitationsolicitations from p campaign, way behind secretary clinton in raising money but they're trying to make up for it. >> rose: do we have new swing states? >> charlie, we do. never watch what the campaigns say. watch what they do. if you watch what they do in addition to our super swing states, ohio, most of all, florida, and virginia, charlie, you now we have a fourth which is north caerlz. some of the campaigns tell us, way. north carolina. that will tell you whether or not donald trump will have a real path. the private polling we're seeing from north carolina still has
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hillary clinton ahead, but if donald trump were to get close that would be a sign that he's sewing up the sunbelt a little bit and a sign of the importance there. hillary clinton has gone there again and again, and next, we, probably the biggest event of next week, president obama appearing with hillary clinton, and he's going to do it in charlotte. >> rose: by a 5-3 majority this, we the supreme court handed down its most significant abortion ruling in a while. at issue were requirements the state of texas placed on abortion clinics and whether those constituted an undue burden that would prevent women from access to care. adam liptack, the supreme court correspondent for the "new york times." >> i was a little bit surprised. you could sort of tell by doing a little bit of detective work about who was going to write what, that breyer was the likely
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author. once you knew breyer of the author, you knew it would be a proabortion rights decision but i wasn't sure it would be so full throated. it not only strikes down two part of a restrictive texas law but it reaffirms a standard that will make it hard for many, many states to pass many kinds of abortion restriction. so it's a very good day for abortion rights activists. >> rose: tell us about the restrictions it placed on abortion in terms of where they could go and what they had to have to get there. >> right, the law did two basic thengz, both of them, the legislators said, were to help women's health, but abortion rights groups said that was a ruse. one required doctors in abortion clinics to have admitting privileges at nearby hospitals which is hard to get and many medical associations say there is no point in that because abortion is a very safe procedure. a second required abortion
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clinics to meet standards of ambulatory surgical centers, basically turning them into mini-hospitalsing millions. and it would drive the number of clinics in texas-- which, of course, is an enormous state-- down from around 40 to about 10. this decision means we'll probably be back at something like the 40 number fairly soon. >> rose: and the dissent? >> most of it was quite technical that some procedural bars hadn't been met and the litigation shouldn't have gone through because of earlier litigation. justice thomas wrote that this decision was bad not only because it reafirmed the 1992 decision planparenthood against casey, but because it all reimagined it. it made it even easier for courts to strike down abortion restriction which justice thomas thought was a bad thing. >> rose: what do you do now that the court is out ofs
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session? >> i think i should write a wrap-up of the term, try to make sense of the eight-justice court, look forward to when and if we have a ninth justice. >> rose: what will you say about the court that just closed? >> they muddled through, deadlocked not infrequently, agreed on very narrow dprowndz, sometimes in cryptic decision in an effort to find consensus. in two big cases, affirmative action and abortion, they delivered solid liberal victories. >> rose: and it marked the year antonin scalia had died who had such a remarkable impact on conversation at the court. >> right. and the nature of the court really shifted february 13 when justice scalia died. it became a duller, grayer place, and i think they're probably ready for reinforcements. they wouldn't mind having nine justices instead of trying to find consensus with an evenly-- ideologically evenly-balanced
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court. >> rose: zero days is a documentary about the newest frontier in watch warfare, cyber war. unfortunately, it escaped to attack other computers around the world. alex gib me is the filmmaker, david sangar of the "new york times" was interviewed for the film. >> i had done a film, the story of wikileaks, and the producer reminded me about the the stuxnet story. i had seen about it priferly, pie reading about it in the "new york times." it seemed to me a story that need aid deeper dive. there had been no film about it so i got interested in it and started on. >> rose: and you place a phone call to david and say, "we
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should talk?" >> we should talk. >> he showed up one day. we the met at a coffee shop who ploks from the white house. he had read "confront and conceal "a book i had written that came out about four years ago that was really about obama's first term but opens with this almost made-for-tv movie scene, where leon panetta comes to the situation room to explain to president obama this warm they had put into the irian centrifuges had somehow done what everybody said would never happen-- it had gotten loose. it had gotten out of the nuclear september and was spreading around the world. suddenly the code was in the hands of the iranians, the russians, the chinese, and everybody else. and it was the panic that came from that, that actually gave me the thread. that happened in 2010-- to do
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two years of investigation that led back to the story of how president bush and then president obama secretly took this weapon and made the first use of a cyber-weapon by one major state against another, in an act that previously could only have done by sending in saboteurs who were bombing. >> rose: what questions did you not answer in this documentary? where could you not find part of the story? >> you know, one of the most frustrating part of the story, riffing off of what david just said, is so many people refused to talk to me about it or refused to admit their role in the operation, and this is after the operation was blown. we now know that the the u.s. and, frankly, israel, were responsible for this attack. i wanted to talk about the attack. i didn't have to know the codes for the attack, but nobody will engage on had issue. it's all so relentlessly secret. and nobody will really engage on the issue as to why it's so
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secret. so that was maybe one of the most frustrating aspects of the film. and ultimately, it's one of the things the film became about. >> rose: right. for example you told scott rox borrow-- the level of secrecy shocked me because this is a big deal we're talking about, a potential global cyber war, and our leaders aren't even talking about this." >> that's right. we can't get them to have a discussion because it's all secret. and for something that could be an existential threat for us, because we have the most to lose, just about, of any nation on earth, because we're so deeply intersected. our computer system were so sophisticate. one of the reasons the ukrainian grid came back on so quickly after the russian cyber attack is because their grid is so old school. they have 11ers and buttons that push on and off -- >> not computer directed. >> exactly.
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>> rose: new york city was the setting this week for the 18th annual marathon, 56 hours of comedy. the festival was founded in 1999 by the upright citizens brigade. the four founders of the upright citizens brigade are amy poehler, matt blesser, ian roberts and matt walsh. >> the name started as-- the name of our comedy troupe, but now it represents a much bigger it's made up of the people that inhabit it. so there's many members. >> yeah, a lot of comedy theaters have a-- like, the top ensemble. like second city has the main dispaij that's, what, eight
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people? but we didn't build our comedy theater that way. we refer to it as the 600-person ensemble. we have three to four shows every night, a different cast in every show. you can have 300 performers on the stage in a week. like amy said trepresents a bunch of people. >> rose: were you inspired by second city? >> yeah, but we wanted to be different. >> we fell into it, having a theater and a school. we were doing our show and came out to new york and started doing an improv show along with our sketch show. >> a minor technical glitch. nothing to worry about. >> no, it's not. >> and there were these people that had some interest in improvisation and said will you coach us. and we started coaching and people who didn't have teams yet wanted to do what we did, and we started teaching classes. eventually at one point, we were renting so much space we were paying the rent.
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at that point, we said we should have our own theater and teach our classes there and put up our shows there. >> dell, he inspired us more than second city. he kind of rejected second city. they said we just use sketch, and improization is a tool for coming up with sketch and he said improvisation could be the own art form. he would direct for them, leave, and come back, but eventually he left and joined the improv olympic in chicago and developed this form called the herald, which had been developed years earlier but he took it to fruition, and that's where we started taking classes from him. but he qepped it this thing, with other people, but we feel he's the one that took it to the next level, called long-form improvisation. >> rose: what is that? >> short forms is games. like you'll get a suggestion and
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tell the audience, we're going to rewind the scene and we need a film genre. long form is sprung from one one-word suggestions and you do 30 to 45 minutes off of one word. >> rose: here is a look at the week ahead. sunday is the start of paris fashion week. monday is the fourth of july. tuesday marks one month to the start of the olympic games in rio deej narro. thursday is the day president obama begins a visit to poland for his final nato summit. the world's oldest living twin brothers celebrate their 103rd birthday. ed is is the women's final of the wimbledon tennis championships.
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and here is what's new for your weekend. the 22nd annual festival gets under way in new orleans. steven spielberg's "the b.f.g." opens in theaters nationwide. >> why did you take me? >> because he hears your lonely heart. >> rose: and at 8:00 p.m. eastern on monday, pbs presents the annual "a capitol fourth independence day celebration" live from the west lawn of the capitol. that's "charlie rose: the week" for this week. before we leave you tonight we note with sadness the death of pat summitt. she was 64. over the course of her 38-year career, coach summitt built the tennessee lady volunteers into a
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collegiate powerhouse. her teams won eight national titles and 1,098 games. she res mains the winningest coach, male or female, in the history of n.c.a.a. division one basketball. here is pat summitt at the table. >> it's a challenge, but what great reward when you see little girls become young women, when you see them go from being shy, nonaggressive, to being really strong and aggressive and just really they gain a lot of self-respect themselves.
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