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and that's it for today, have a great week and we'll see you next "fox news sunday." ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we talk to sean spicer for the first time as white house press secretary, this as president trump is making a blizzard of headlines in his first week from jobs to trade to immigration, even as the media accuse him of spreading falsehoods about illegal voting. >> it is empirically a stunning allegation for which the white house is providing no evidence x there is a reason they are providing no evidence. there is no evidence. it is not true. >> so far the white house has provided no evidence of any kind to back up these claims. fox news is not aware of any reliable studies or information that suggests that there is widespread voter fraud anywhere in america. >> it's gotten to the point that
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the white house is talking about alternative facts or pushing straight up misinformation or, frankly, unverifiable all in an attempt, it seems, to essentially appease the boss. >> now, either the president believes something for which there is no evidence and is false, or he doesn't really believe it, and he's just using this as an excuse to explain why he did not win the popular vote. either way, the president is spreading a falsehood. >> should "the new york times" and other outlets be calling the president a liar? as chaos erupts in american airports over trump's temporary ban other refugees, is the press biased against that effort? and what about the newme president's charge that much ofi the media are part of the opposition party? as for sean spicer -- >> is it your intention to always tell the truth from that podium, and you pledge never to knowingly say something that is not factual? >> it is. p it's an honor to do this, and,
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yes. i i believe that we have to be honest with the american people. i think sometimes we can disagree with the facts. howard: we asked him about his contentious relationship with the media. miss -- >> you know what? you got spunk. [laughter]. >> well -- >> i hate spunk! [laughter] howard: how mary tyler moore inspired a generation of female journalists.howard kurtz, and ts "media buzz." ♪ ♪ >> president trump jumped into a media maelstrom during his first week of office, and sean spicer has been on the front lines. when the president made his unverified claims about millions voting illegally in the 2016 election, spicer was hit by a flurry of elections. >> does the president believe millions voted illegally in this election, and what evidence do
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you have if that's the case? >> the president does believe that. he has stated that before. as i said, i think the presidens has believed that for a while based on studies and information he has. >> you said the president believes there was voter fraud. i wonder if you believe that. howard: it was a little chaotic when i went to the white house. we had one camera in a noisy briefing room when i caught up with the president's press secretary. sean spicer, welcome.. >> thanks for having me. howard: president trump says he views much of the media, not all, as the opposition party. do you believe that? >> i think when you look at some of the comments and ways things have been phrased, it clearly isn't an objective look at a what he has done both during the campaign, the transition and now. there is constantly this sense that -- or skepticism, whether there should be a healthy skepticism, but when you look at the president's record as a candidate, curl -- during his transition and now his first week after office, frankly, the
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default should be what can't he do, not what will he do. howard: now, you're entitled to push back on unfair coverage, some of it has been unfair. this seems to go farther and almost define the media as the enemy. n >> well, i think in many cases there are stories and journalists who start off with a negative disposition on how they're going to cover the president and his actions. howard: so, okay. now, you yourself in this briefing room last weekend, pretty forceful statement to reporters. >> that's right. howard: the media are vowing to hold president trump accountable, you're going to hold the media accountable against what you called irresponsible behavior. it's been reported that president trump perhaps stronglu encouraged you to deliver those remarks. >> i don't divulge private conversations -- howard: i asked the question care any.ns >> i know you did, and i appreciate that effort. howard: you've taken a lot of heat personally for your t handling of the president's claim -- >> right. >> he believes up to five million people voted illegally in this election. there is no evidence of that,
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but you kept saying, well, that's what he believes. >> that's what he believes. howard: you didn't want to embrace it yourself. >> that's not my job. my job is to speak on behalf of the president. when i asked about this issue, he said that's what i believe. my idea is to be his spokesperson, to articulate his ideas, his successes, and in this case, what he believes. howard: if the president points to a pew study as buttressing the case that there was a lot of illegal voting. >> as one example. howard: okay. the author of the study tells journalists, no, we didn't say that, isn't it fair for a journalists to point that out? >> sure, it's fair. but i think the president has talked about the immediate nor an -- the need for an executive order to look into this. we've got dead people voting, people voting twice. when you look at the integrity of our voting system, the question should be why aren't we doing this. this is our right to vote. one man, one vote, one person, one vote.k it's something that's the
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bedrock of our democracy. so the idea that we wouldn't take this seriously, it's something that should be asked. should the president showing the leadership on this and making sure that when someone goes out to vote and they wait in line, they know that vote not only counts, but is equal to the person in line in front of them should be something that's applauded. s howard: on the front page ofit "the new york times," trump repeats election lie. fair or unfair? >> well, again, that goes back to your first question about opposition i think it's one thing to state an opinion or to state, hey, you know, here's what he said and here's what the facts show or here's what some studies show. but when they come out and they say he lied lied and they have t evidence that certain things don't exist. for example, the president said the other day, and i said it as well, we had the largest audience. when you combine the television ratings, people watching live stream and on twitter, those are the numbers i can put out that show it was the largest
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audience. and so far i haven't had anybody, not one person come back to me with numbers to refute that. any prior -- maybe think of someone in the briefing room threw out ronald reagan, and last time i checked '80 and '84, we didn't have twitter, youtube, facebook, the internet. howard: so a headline that says lie in your view is acting like opposition party? >> absolutely. here's the interesting thing about the way the media operates. when they make a mistake, they write a correction at the bottom and call it a correction. when an administration has a t difference of opinion in the media, they call it a lie. howard: or makes a mistake. >> they scrutinize every single point, which is fair. we have a free press, and i'm to not saying they shouldn't. but it's interesting how it's a one-way street. howard: on a personal level when some journalists write that this week has tarnished your credibility, does that bother you? >> no. i believe what i believe. i know i have the confidence of the president. i feel very good when i go to sleep at night that i'm fighting for an agenda that he's laid out
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that's making the countrys better. that's lifting families up, that's making this country safer. i believe in his agenda, i believe in what he's trying to do, and as long as i know thatwh when i walk out i'm articulating his agenda and his success to the best of my ability, then i can sleep pretty well. howard: some in the press have been ripping this president over the dust-up this week with mexico, and, you know, he said the u.s. will begin to pay for this wall, he believes mexico will reimburse. you explained about import tax that might coffer some of it, then you said that was one idea. and i know the presidents spoke on friday. >> they did. that conversation was supposed to be ten minutes long, and it went just shy of an hour. howard: right, but "the wall street journal" editorial said titled trump's little mexican war, this was amateur hour. >> we'll see. i think they, you know, in a couple years from now when our trade deficit is down, when our immigration system is fixed, when our border is secure, they
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might want to revise that. i think the president's made it clear on the economic and national security fronts that he's going to take swift action. and that's going to be to the benefit of every american, every american taxpayer and, frankly,e every american in temples of safety. because -- in terms of safety. it's not just mexicans, it's a lot of people using that porous border to come through mexico that could potentially cause us harm. but there's also a massive economic impact. the cost we're having to spend on immigration because the border's porous, but also the flood of goods and services that are coming in from our mexican a border, we've got a $50 billion a year trade deficit with mexico, that's a huge, excuse me, and that's a huge amount that is currently favoring them, not us. so if we can put the american worker back, first and foremost, that helps our economy and job creation as well. howard: in the past, donald trump has criticized fox news. right now he steams to like -- seems to like fox, he tweeted congratulations for the having the highest or numbers on
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inauguration day, why because -- why does he keep taking shots at cnn? >> when you take a look at the week he has, it actually iss historic in terms of how much he's done by executive action, how many meetings -- howard: so you feel some in the media have acknowledged the progress he's made. >> it's definitely a minority.e and, again, when i ask reporters privately what do you think of the week we've had so far, the number of people we've met with, he sat down with union leaders, business owners, carit manufacturers and by and large, when you meet with these individuals and ask them how many times were you here during the obama administration, in in many cases they'll say, never. they'll admit you've had impactful days. that's the point. you look at the coverage and what happens, and it doesn't get reflected at all. they're looking for every way to nitpick whether or not a word was pronounced right or something was spelled correctly, but they're not looking at the successes. and i think that's why to some
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degree the approval rating of the media is so low, because the american people are turning on the news, and they're not finding out things that are going to impact our lives which is what i think they turn to, but looking for little petty ideas. howard: let the record show you have not mispronounced any word so far. joining me now, a reporter for real clear politics. we just heard sean spicer say some reporters have told him privately that the administration is off to a good start, but he talked about nitpicking. what'd you make of that? >> i also thought he had a really good moment in his monday briefing when he said, look,s it is frustrating and demoralizing to turn on the tv and see all this negative coverage. he wasn't spinning. that was actually a pretty good moment for why they are going down this road of trying to bring in claims about crowd size and voter proud to, that they're going to fight back when theytu are frustrated. howard: i just caught this on a new web site this morning, saying read the weekend papers, look at cable.
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trump's debut was pretty much a debacle, but actually it was a pretty productive start. why the gap between the coverage and spicer says reporters privately -- at least some of them -- say it's off to at least a fast start. b >> well, i think we have seen through the course of this past week the coverage has gotten c better throughout the week. i thought, you know -- howard: better or more positive to the white house? >> well, i think both. i think monday and tuesday it was all very pittty and very much -- petty and very much about the media. americans don't want to read about what the media thinks is wrong, you know? more i think it got much better with -- i saw what you talked about with axios say it was a dizzying first week. new york times said it was a dizzying first week. so i think the coverage improved. howard: well, the coverage has probably been too much about the media at the same time when president trump attacks the media, of course that's going to generate a lot of press. all right, stick here, and remember to let us know what you think. "media buzz" at
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we'll have more of my interview with sean spicer later in the program. when we come back, our panel weighs in whether some media outlets should be calling in the president a liar. ♪ ♪ all finished. umm... you wouldn't want your painter to quit part way. i think you missed a spot. so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? aleve, live whole not part. painter: you want this color over the whole house? from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear ...with its secure barrier system gives you.... ...triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena lets you be you
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♪ ♪ howard: president trump did his first two it's interviews this week, one with sean hannity and the other with abc's david muir who pressed him about his claim that up to five million people voted illegally in the election. >> what you have been presented so far has been debunked --im >> take a look at the pew reports. >> i called the author last night, and he told me they -- >> really? then why did he write the report? then he's groveling again. you know, i always talk about d the reporters that grol when they want to write somethingng that you want to hear but not necessarily millions of people want to hear or have to hear. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage, guy
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benson, political editor of town hall and a folk news contributor and julie lo begin sky, a co-host of "outnumbered." let's talk about the word lie in this whole flap. sean spicer, new york times headline, trump repeats election lie. is that fair or unfair? >> i've personally been using unsubstantiated claim. sean spicer said pretty famously that trump believes it to be true, but that's not good enough for it to actually qualify as the truth. i think part of it also is partisan. if you're a viewer right now, you're saying how dare trump is lying, ask yourself how you would react if it was president obama saying something over and over again for which there was no proof. i think that's the standard under which we should try to operate, those of us in the media, even if we are ideological in our bent like i am. howard: right. i am very, very course about the word lie -- very cautious about the word lie. washington post this week, julie, trump's disregard for the
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truth threatens his ability to govern, so the press is framing this as an issue that could completely define his presidency. >> well, first of all, i agree largely with everything guy said, and i think -- howard: that doesn't happen too often. >> well, actually, more often than you might think. >> you're going to get me in trouble, julie. >> i'm not going to praise him too much, but i will say this, i remember when william sapphire, as you recall, called hillary clinton back in the '90s a congenital liar -- howard: she was first lady. >> but, you know, he made the point, and i actually agreed, that you have to call things for what they are, and language is very important. when you have the president of the united states and his surrogates coming out and saying things that they obviously must know not to be true, for example, record breaking attendance at the inauguration, so on and so forth -- howard: in dispute -- >> well, it's not in dispute, it was not -- >> spicer backed off on that in terms of the in-person attendance. he corrected himself. >> after a while. this goes on and on and on. i could cite four or five other
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examples. if somebody's looking you in the eye and telling you she she is t is fact -- something that is o factually incorrect, that is what the dictionary would define as a lie. howard: do you don't agree with guy.w >> it's not something you should throw to out like candy -- howard: let's talk about another lying president because the question of ideology comes up. 1998, bill clinton has just gone before a grand jury, and he has admitted that he had a sexual relationship with monica lewinsky, no matter how you want to define that term. new york times, looked out up, here's the lead. president clinton agreed he had an intimate relationship with an intern.d washington post said he had not been candid, he had misled americans. >> that was a lie, that was absolutely a lie. howard howard is there a different standard for president trump? >> there may be, but remember, that was also almost 20 years ago. i think the media, obviously, have taken a different tack over
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the course of the last 20 years. howard: not just in the last week with. yeah. >> not just in the last week, no. howard: okay. the president was tweeting again today, if we can put this up, he was ripping "the new york times" and the washington post. he called "the new york times"nt fake news, and he wrote this: somebody with aptitude and conviction should buy the fake news and failing new york times and either one it correctly or let it fall with dignity. both napes saying, hey, our -- newspapers saying, hey, our subscription rates are up. >> the owner of "the new york times" how to conduct journalism.ect that's very dangerous when you are urging the owners of newspapers to put their own ideology as a stamp upon what should be fair and balanced journalism. howard: doesn't the president have a right to hit back by what he sees as unfair coverage? >> yeah, and that's what he's doing. i share some of the concern that julie's voicing, but also i think what trump and his supporters would say is the post and particularly the times are not unbiased. they do have an ideology.
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it's not just their editoriall page, it's their news page as well. so you might not like the phrasing and how it does seem heavy-handed, a president saying the things he's saying, but to the point out that these newspapers clearly have it in for him, i think, the legitimate. howard: and yet he gave an interview to "the new york times" this week. up next, president trump and steve bannon are labeling the press the opposition party. and later, sean spicer on whether the new president is too quick to react to what he sees on cable news. ♪ ♪
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♪ howard howard the charge about the media essentially being in the enemy camp came first from steve bannon to "the new york times" and then president trump embraced it.
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in an interview with christian broadcast network's david brody. >> yeah, i think they're the opposition party. a big portion of the media, the dishonesty, the total deceit and deception makes them certainly, partially, the opposition party, absolutely. i think they're much more capable than the opposition party. howard: more capable than the democrats. press kind of rose up in unison against this.p do you think the press took the bait here?un >> i think they did. but let's think about why it is that he has said this, and i know you disagree with me on this, but a lot of reporters will say it's their job to be adversarial. i don't agree with that. our job is to cover, not to fight. so i think that the media certainly invited this. but also think about why he did this. the democrats are getting absolutely no press. there is a major race right now for the chairmanship and the leadership of that party, and nobody cares.y howard: right. but where we might not disagree is, are they being much more adversarial, perhaps even prosecutorial when it comes to president trump as opposed to
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president obama? >> yeah, absolutely. howard: guy, jump in here. >> yes. we had in the previous administration the white house communications director basically said the exact same thing about this network, and there was not quite the same cry -- howard howard she said fox was an arm of the republican party. >> right.. an appendage or whatever. i think it is very obvious that the adversarial press is back, which is good, by the way. i think it's a healthy thing for a republic except it wasn't that way under obama because most of the press corps voted for him and would give him the benefit of the doubt. howard: but opposition party suggests all the news organizations wake up every morning thinking how can they damage this president. even you you would say that goes too far? >> i think there is more than a little bit of that. howard howard julie, does the press play into the administration's hands when they make mistakes like the mlk bust being removed from the oval office? o
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president trump said to sean hannity, well, what they're really saying is i'm a racist and, of course, that story was retracted and apologized. >> yes. the reporter did retract it, but it gives him the excuse to go out and paint everybody with the same false look, i come at this from the soviet union which is where i was born. i remember pravda, i rememberrm having an arm of the press, searchly, act as an d essentially, act as an arm of the government. and if that's what president trump wants, if he wants the press to look askance at anybody who criticized him for what he said that's misleading, then that's not the united states we all know, and that's not the first amendment -- howard: but you've gob from him pushing back against the, quote, opposition party to say he wants only adoring coverage. that seems a stretch.e. >> not at all. when he criticizes the press for doing its job -- howard howard what about when the press falls down on the job? >> when they do, as zeke miller did, he corrected it almost
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immediately but, two, they have every right to call him out for it. of course they do. that's sean spicer's job. what they cannot do is urging owners of newspapers to tell journalists how to do their jobs. and -- >> the owners tell them to pound sand which they have done, and donald trump is not the first politician in the history of the world to want good coverage. politicians -- >> there's a difference. i think what he wants is coverage that suborns bad behavior on a -- howard: and on that point, we'll pick it up. ahead, the late mary tyler moore only played a t producer, but, boy, did she have an impact on reporters. but first, president trump gets into a dust-up with mexico, and the coverage has been pretty harsh. ♪ ♪ pretty harsh. boost it's about moving forward not back. it's looking up not down. it's feeling up thinking up living up. it's being in motion... in body
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syrian child on the beach. this morning, the post headline, chaos nationwide. about 200 protesters are c gathering to protest this at capitol. guy benson, trumps' comments on favoring christians over muslims, but isn't this almost what he said he would do during the campaign? >> a lot of it is. some of the coverage has been bad, some have been quite good. there have been some tick tocks on how this went down behind the scenes which which i find rather alarming. there was a really good piece by david french in national review trying to separate fact from fiction -- howard: that particular piece talks about how the level of refugees that the trump administration would admit after this ban is about what it was before the obama administration. >> right. among other things, there's good and bad, but it's a well reported piece. the one thing i have been alarmed by is how many reporters are using the shorthand phrase
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muslim ban because trump says it's not. look, there are hundreds ofet millions of muslims worldwide not affected by this ban, for example, people living in indonesia, with many non-muslims who are. although i understand to try to use one or two words to describe it, it's tempting to say muslim ban, it just isn't accurate. howard: right. he did initially say that during the campaign, but when that happened, julie, the entire media establishment said this is suicidal, he's toast, he's neves going to win this nomination. turned out they were wrong on public sentiment and maybe are missing the country now who think this is a good idea? >> oh, there are definitely people in the country -- i only need to look at my twitter feed to know, sadly, how many people think this is a good idea. look, he's playing to his base, and he is coming through with i the things he promised he is going to do. the one thing you can't criticize this president for doing is not exactly what he said he was going to do. having said that, to some extent people in the media and others
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including liberals who thought, okay, donald trump's not going to be as bad as everybody thought he was going to do have woken up to the fact that he is coming through with his promises. when you had rudy giuliani yesterday saying the president asked me to put together a muslim ban, and this is the best we could do, we could come up with, the original intent was,ld in fact, to have a miss him ban according to -- muslim ban. howard: you set me up nicely for this question which is do youst think many journalists ings covering all these things that were controversial, building a wall on the southern border, this immigration ban temporary kind of had the feeling that, well, he's saying that in campaign, he's not really going to do it. so now it's almost like we're covering it for the first time. but, again, usually -- if he didn't do any of these things, the headline would be president failed to deliver. >> this that sense, yeah, you're right. i think a lot of the coverage has been quite good too because i think this is forcing so many news organizations to actually go out into the country and see
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what the impacts of the policies are.. and you point out the post o saying there's chaos nationwide? well, there is a lot of chaos, and it's important to go cover that. howard: a fair question is, you know, should there have been a 48-hour notice of this, because people got on airplanes and landed at airports in america and were detained. you also have a tendency to find one person who was affected unfairly make that person the face of the story. so there's this guy who was an interpreter for the u.s. military, i believe in iraq, who now finds himself in this sort t of legal limbo. but you say, when you say some of the coverage is good and you've learned things, what about the coverage that you find not so good, and what's your y criticism there? >> well, i think that i can understand there's especially in television you want goodn pictures, you want good tv, so people storming airports and picketing, that's good tv.ts it's not necessarily representative of how most people feel about this. i think what is more important to cover -- and there has been some of this, so i'm not throwing the whole media under the bus -- how did thise
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executive order get written? why is it so very sloppy in a lot of ways, it seems like? it seems like a lot of the relevant lawyers were not consulted which i think is sort of crazy. so -- and then to your point and how the media, it's like damnedm if you do, damned if you don't. if you're trump, you're like, well, look at these countries that aren't on it like saudi arabia and pakistan. would anyone rescind their criticism if he added two more countries to it? i don't think they would. there are legitimate criticisms and ones that are sillier. >> but i think there were criticisms that by sheer coincidence some of the countries that did send terrorists like 9/11, for example -- >> >> -- were places where the trump organization has done business and continues to do business, so as a result, that's potentially why -- howard howard so this morning kellyanne conway and reince priebus and sean spicer out defending the policy and talking about, you know, part of the concern here is to stop potential terrorists and to tighten the vetting procedures.
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i didn't hear as many of those voices yesterday, particularly because, as guy says, there is a tendency to cover the protests, the chaos as opposed to, you know, newspapers kind of acknowledged that some people thinks this is a good idea. >> well, but you also have people you talk about who have green cards who have lived here for years, who are married to american citizens who have children and dogs and jobs heree and they were left in limbo. there's a woman who has iranianm citizenship who is in switzerland who was coming here to do diabetes research at harvard, she was bans. it's the baby with the bath water mentality here. of course, the goal is to t prevent terrorism, but you can'r ban an entire class of people from doing that. howard: and when the meeting between the president of mexico and president trump was canceled because of his statements on building the wall and the complicated formula under which mexico might or might not reimburse the u.s., i just get the sense there's an underlying tone here that the journalists think that's a bad idea, that the temporary ban on refugees is a bad idea and the tone of the coverage reflects ----
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>> oh, there's no question thatt a press thinks these ideas are bad, that's very clear. howard: right, but that's not their job. >> right. the president of mexico was made to be a hero after this. howard: in his country at least. >> and the american media showed that. howard: all right, thanks veryha much for joining us this sunday. coming up, sean spicer, more of that interview on criticism that president trump spends too much time watching cable news ands firing off tweets. more with the white house press secretary in just a moment. ♪ ugh. heartburn. sorry ma'am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don't taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn't have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. if time is infinite, why is ta john deere 1 family tractor can give you more time for what you love. because with our quick-attach features, it takes less work to do more work. nothing runs like a deere.
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♪ ♪ howard: president trump is drawing some media scrutiny and criticism for constantly making policy announcements on twitter and reacting to what's on cablee news. more now with my interview with sean spicer from the white house. president trump seems to be reacting pretty yessingly to thing -- regularly to things he sees on fox news. bill o'reilly cited statistics
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on a surge of murders in chicago, the president said he might send in the feds, whatever that means. >> right. howard: critics are saying this is no way to make policy finish. >> but that assumes that that is exactly how it's being done, and i think that's a very simplistic way of looking at it. he's constantly getting briefed by a team of advisers on a whole host of issues, and i think people will go backwards and m find a story and say that must have been what he's talking about. at the end of the day, the president is constantly in meetings with individuals and his staff and advisers about key issues, and there are sometimes when he may get triggered because he sees an issue and says, that's right, i heard about that a couple days ago, that's important. but to presume they understand his thinking is shortsighted. howard: but do some of these tweets on various issues detract from his main message, the main things you've been focused on, johns, trade, immigration, because it creates other stories -- >> sure it does. but i think by and large it drives, not just news, but itt drives success. you look at what he did with carrier, boeing and lockheed. he brought people together
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through tweeting out this stuff and saved the american taxpayer money and brought jobs back. that's a huge success. i think what happens is there's generally a criticism in the media about his use of twitter mostly because i think it shows he can go around a lot of the media and get things done and also be successful because there's such a reaction to his message. howard: you think the media don't like that -- >> i don't. absolutely not. howard: they feel cut out of the loop? >> yeah, threatened. i think the idea that he can have this direct conversation with the american people and direct reaction. think of the other day, congress was going to take up an action, he didn't think it made sense in terms of the level of priority that it was. he tweeted it out. members of congress removed the bill from the floor, and i think that just goes to show the power of him and his movement. howard: here in the briefing room you've broken with tradition of always calling on a wire service reporter first, usually the ap, you've startedta out with "the new york post" be, laura ingraham's live set. getting any pushback on that?
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>> i don't -- maybe, nothing directly -- howard: what's your thinking by it? >> my thinking is there are a lot of voices in this briefing room on a daily basis, and even of them deserves -- each of them deserves to have their voice heard. i think sometimes the tone and subjects that come up earlier can help define what goes on through the briefing. and so allowing an organization like cbn, the christian broadcasting network, get the first -- puts a lot of ideas in play that maybe they weren't or getting asked a question early on helps set the tone, bring up an idea that maybe would get drowned out towards the end? howard: sean spicer, thanks very much. >> welcome to testify broog room, you -- to the briefing room, you bet. howard: a bunch of reporters descended on sean spicer with questions, and he ended up having to hold a mini gaggle. by the way, protesters who are upset about the temporary refugee ban targeting the white house for protest. the protesters are right outside
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the capitol, my window here, apparently are protesting, i am told -- there we see them -- the appointment of betsy devos as education secretary. after the break, a white house correspondent says the president's foreign policy seems to be trump first. and later, abc's nightline apologizes for shoddy journalism involving ari fleischer. ♪ ♪ ve colitis or crohn's, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be time for a different perspective. if other treatments haven't worked well enough, ask your doctor about entyvio, the only biologic developed and approved just for uc and crohn's. entyvio works by focusing right in the gi-tract to help control damaging inflammation and is clinically proven to begin helping many patients achieve both symptom relief as well as remission. infusion and serious allergic reactions can happen during or after treatment. entyvio may increase risk of infection, which can be serious. while not reported with entyvio, pml, a rare,
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may have been america first, his actual guiding philosophy is more trump first. sounds a bit snarky. >> well, i think -- i mean, first, i should say that donald trump is not the first presidens who has placed an emphasis on personal relationships when it comes to foreign policy. every president does that to a certain -- howard: and you put that in the piece, barack obama and george bush looking at putin's soul. >> and you certainly could have gone back even further. but what was striking for me watching that press conference was how much when each of these very specific policy issues came up, donald trump repeatedly returned to the personal. you sort of got the sense when he was asked about putin that his russia policy would be largely dictated by if he and the president of russia sort of hit it off on a personal level. you know, when he was asked about britain's decision for the brexit vote to break from the european union, donald trump said it was a good idea, but the evidence he gave was that he had once, you know, in his former life as a real estate magnate done a deal there, and he had a lot of trouble getting permits with that group of nations, andt
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it was easier country to country. howard: you think he personalized it. >> yeah, he absolutely did. how're howard now, i happened to see you in the briefing room on friday evening after trump had signed those two orders having to do with refugee policy. explain what you were trying to do at that moment. >> well, you know, he had signed those orders around four, and this was several hours later,, and none of the press had seen actual text of the orders. so we needed to understand what the actual text said in order te report on it, and so what we were all doing was hanging around in lower press kind of desperately trying to get the white house to release the text of those orders. howard: right. desperate is probably a good word because it was such a big story, and you didn't have the meat of it. you also reported on sort of internal feuding at the white house, who's backing sean spicer, who's not, who's sniping. given this is not a long-term team of veterans, is this a leaky white house in which people are kind of pushing their own agendas in the press? >> to some extempt, yes. i will say we went in expecting
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there to be a ton of rivalries especially between sort of steve bannon, more populist, more conservative camp and reince priebus, sort of the more traditional party guy, and by all accounts, they're getting along but, yes, he has this these competing power centers, people have different visions, come from different words and they are all competing for a slice of donald trump's brain. and because of that, you do see a little bit at times of them undermining each other in the press. how're howard which makes for forder for you. >> it does. howard: you heard sean spicer when asked about president trump reacting to cable news, he said the press corps feels threatenee and cut out of the loop. do you feel cut out of the loop trying to keep up with the twitter machine that is donald trump? >> i think there's something nen about when you cover the white house, having to make sure you're awake by 5:30 or 6 a.m. was the president could be
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putting out policy -- howard: so no sleeping late. >> your alarm clock becomes trump's twitter feed. [laughter] in a way, the press is just like the rest of the american public where we are getting what trump is thinking and doing in realtime via twitter. it may be nontraditional, but we're certainly getting that message. howard: we all talk about this, there is so much news being made in this first week on so many fronts that it is hard to cover it all. it is we have so much time and ink and so many people to cover. >> yeah, absolutely. it's sort of like there's a ton of ink coming. at "the washington post," we have one position called the hot seat which is one of the reporters literally each week is responsible for just that, those tweets and making sure we have everything under control. howard: i think we're all on the hot seat now, ashley parker. thanks very much. >> thank you. howard: still to come, nightline engages in a bit of deceptiveges editing. a saturday night live editor is suspended, and why so many in the media are mourning the passing of mary tyler moore.
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here is what nightline aired after the controversial scouting of the press a week ago on saturday at the widely crazed briefing this monday. >> george bushes press secretary says they should not delivered the provable falsehood. >> it's making me uncomfortable. it's too truculent and too tough. if the ball was dropped on saturday ã? >> he complained and this is what he actually said. looks to me the ball wasdropped on saturday , sean recovered and ran for a first down on monday. this is how the press reports and trump is right to go after them. nightline admitted the screwup. it was shortened and as a result his opinion was mischaracterized. they have the full content and we apologize and regret the
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error. it's an awful error when used change someone's meeting by cutting them off. the white house put out a statement asking if the presidents children be able to grow up outside the political spotlight. it's a response to snl writer katie rich. it's about baron and guns. >> saturday night live ãa person was terrible. for them to attack ãfor nbc to attack my 10-year-old son is a disgrace. >> baron is 10 come on ! katie rich apologized and was suspended. like everyone else i love mary tyler moore. she played dick van dyke's charming wife and the days she was married mary richard in the 70s working for the blue grant. she helped align the career woman who could stand up to the boss. >> would you try answering the questions that i asked him? i will but it doesseem you ask
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a lot of personal questions that don't have a thing to do with my qualifications for this job . >> you go, girl. when she died this week at 80 i was struck by how many female journalist hailed her as inspiring them toget into the news business. >> inspired some of us to want to work at a news room with all the guys like mr. grant . >> it was a very impressionable time. look at her.she is on her own.she is an independent woman pursuing a career and i thought ãwhy not bwhy could not do the same thing? >> the actress said she was a libertarian who watched a lot of fox news. mary tyler moore has spunk. that's it for this edition of media buzz. thank you for joining us and i hope you like the facebook page. we post original content there. media i respond on video.check out my segment on monday nights. we talked to carlton on the show and let's continue the conversation on twitter . we like to hear from you and we
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like it to be a dialogue. many of you have strong opinionsabout the media . we are back next sunday, hope to see you then with the latest buzz. ms. black. [music] and alert and chaos with confusion that's continuing airports across the country. president trump executive order bars citizens from seven mostly muslim countries from entering the nation and that includes a first green card holders and legal permanent residents of the us. it's as well as cutting the number of all refugees in half. it was a ruling in the government for deporting passengers not allowed in. the order is only growing.


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