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a legitimate president. martin luther king's son saying things are said during the heat of the moment, but they're still said. and those 28 congressmen, led by congressman lewis, are not going to that inauguration. all of this on mlk day. hey, trish. trish: hey, neil. anyway, thank you very much. here we are just four days away from the inauguration. now, this should be a week of coming together, right? but the left is undermining the outcome of the election with at least 29 democratic lawmakers vowing to skip the inauguration altogether. congressman john lewis even going so far as to call president-elect donald trump's win not legitimate. i am trish regan. welcome, everyone, to "the intelligence report." president-elect trump won the election fair and square, we know that. but the left still will not accept the outcome of the election. here is the congressman, congressman lewis, on why he thinks trump is not a legitimate president. watch. >> i think the russians
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participated in helping this man get elected, and they helped destroy the candidacy of hillary clinton. i don't plan to attend the inauguration. it will be the first one that i miss since i've been in the congress. finish. trish: really? be did you catch that? the congressman, congressman lewis, said this is the first inauguration he is skipping since he has been in congress. but we did the research. and it turns out this is not the first inauguration congressman lewis didn't attend. he also refused to attend george w. bush's inauguration back in 2001. in fact, an article from "the washington post" dated january 21, 2001, reads -- and i'm sharing this with you -- john i lewis, for instance, spent inauguration day in s atlantic district. he thought it would be hypocritical to attend bush's swearing-in because he doesn't
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believe bush is the true elected president. how about that for you, not the true elected president? you see, there's a pattern of behavior. there is a pattern of rhetoric with this gentleman. joining me right now former republican presidential candidate and former governor of arkansas, governor mike huckabee. governor, always good to see you. so, you know, he says one thing, but in reality if you fact check it, it's something else. and, you know, interestingly, he was saying the same darn line about president bush as he's saying about president trump. what do you make of that? >> well, i think it's interesting. hillary clintons has taken john lewis to task. i don't know if you heard what she said, but i want to quote some of it because i think it's very significant. she said questioning the legitimacy of the election and refusing to accept the results would be horrifying, that it's denigrating our democracy and she was appalled by it. she said that's not the way our democracy works. we've been around 240 years, we've had agree and fair
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elections, and we have accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them. and that's what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage. oh, by the way, that was not said about john lewis, that was said about donald trump. but i'm wondering -- trish: you know, the hypocrisy. the hypocrisy -- >> it's incredible. trish: somehow it's okay as hong as you going after the other side to use words like you just read, but not when it's donald trump, not when it's a conservative. >> well, you know, it's interesting that not a single republican skipped the inauguration either time of barack obama. people can say what they want to about republicans, but, you know, when we get beat, we suck it up and say we got beat. [laughter] we don't like it, but that's what happens. you have elections and, you know, i'll tell you something -- trish: isn't this who we are? right? isn't this part of our transition process? this is what makes america different from the banana republicans -- baa man that
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republics down south. i mean, you think of the challenges that, you know, other countries have had, and the one fortunate thing about the united states of america is that we have a peaceful transition process, and people recognize the new president. >> well, news flash to the democrats who are going to sit it out, it's going to happen anyway. and, frankly, i doubt any of them will be missed. it's not like someone is going to say, oh, or my goodness, we're going to have to hold off, we can't bring that bible up here and have hick take the -- him take the oath because we've got some democratic congressmen who didn't show up. it affects the democrats, it affects the way they look. it makes them look like pure losers and, frankly, that they just can't accept the realities of our political system which is we have an orderly transition of power even when we have to grit our teeth and we don't like the transition of power to someone we didn't vote for. but that's what happens. politics, by the way, trish,
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it's not a port in which -- a sport in which there's a second place prize. there is no red ribbon. everyone does not get a trophy, and, you know, there is a distinct winner, and there is a distinct loser. and having been on the losing side, i can tell you it's not much fun. but the other side of that is in respect to the system, you stand up there and you recognize that the people vote. and you respect their vote. trish: and you think about what you can do better next time around. i mean, if anything, this is -- >> sure. trish: -- what representative lewis should be doing. and donald trump, you saw the tweet, we're going to get to it in a second, but he basically said, hey, look, work on your problems at hand. you look at the challenges that your district is facing, you look at the challenges inner cities are facing across the united states of america right now, and it's clear that they have not been well represented by the likes of you. >> well, my advice the donald trump would be ignore john lewis and all these democrats that aren't going to show up, because
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they're not going to affect the outcome of the election, the inauguration or most likely the administration. focus on the problems ahead for america. these guys are never going to be happy with his election. they're probably signaling that no matter what a great idea he puts on the table, they're not going to be able to accept it because they're like the kind of person whose personal animosity is such that even if the be other person tells an hilarious joke, they can't even laugh ate. but that's not a problem of donald trump, that's a problem for john i lewis and some of his democratic colleagues to grapple with. trish: absolutely. it's interesting that this is, effectively, his m.o. considering he said the exact be same thing last time around, and he did miss bush's inauguration as well. governor huckabee, always good to see you. thank you very much. >> thank you, trish. have a wonderful week. trish: you too. president-elect trump is receiving a whole lot of backlash from the left following his tweet about lewis in which he wrote: congressman john lewis
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should finally focus on the burning and crime-infested inner cities of the u.s. i can use all the help i can get, that's the one i was just referring to with governor huckabee. you know, this has been one of trump's main focuses in the campaign. he has gone out there and says he's going to clean up these inner cities, he's going to create some great jobs and get these folks to work. today he's enlisting the help of the son of the greatest civil rights icon, martin luther king jr. cheryl casone is outside trump tower with all the details on it. >> reporter: that's right, trish. martin luther or king iii actually just came down with mr. trump just a few minutes ago, came to the cameras. donald trump not answering questions, but they met for about an hour. now, the details of that meeting not specific to reporters, but one correspondent did ask martin luther king iii what was discussed and if the name john lewis came up, and it did. listen to his response. >> absolutely, i would say john
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lewis has demonstrated that he's action. as i said, things get said on both sides in the heat of emotion, and at some point this nation, we've got to move forward. we can't stay -- i mean, people are literally probably dying. we need to be talking about how do we feed people, clothe people, create the best education system? that's what we need to be focused on. >> reporter: so martin luther king iii, a community and civil rights activist, of course, all of his life along with his family, his sisters and, of course, his mother, but he came here today to, obviously, talk about the issues facing the country in the wake of a new administration. what is interesting about him though is he actually spoke at the 2008 democratic national convention on behalf of barack obama. and that was the 45th anniversary of the i have a dream speech, of course, from his father, martin luther king jr. so in celebration of that day today and certainly to talk some politics and how everybody moves forward especially in light of those comments from john lewis
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from georgia with, trish, thatgr mr. trump. he's got some other meetings this afternoon, ftc, fcc, lower level picks. trish: cheryl casone, thank you so much. all right, president-elect donald trump is trying to work with the bad luck community. he wants to repair the inner cities. he's looking for some help, but instead of helping congressman john lewis out there seems to care more about his own political posturing than doing thinking for the community he needs and is supposed to serve. so how's donald trump supposed to help unite the country and help the inner cities when you've got partisan politicians on the left desperate to stand in his way? joining me right now, the son of president ronald reagan and the author of "the lessons my father taught me," michael reagan. michael, good to see you. >> good to be with you, trish. trish: it seems to me that the democrats' loss in november should be forcing them to take a good, cold, hard look at
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themselves, and instead, michael, they continue to resist any change no matter if it's change that would be good for their own constituencies. did your dad run into this problem at all? >> yeah, my dad ran into it. i think conservatives run into it for a long period of time. democrats never want to accept responsibility for what's happening in their communities, in their states, in their cities and in their towns. look at chicago, look at atlanta, look at detroit. i mean, look at all these cities that have these inner city problems that, in fact, donald trump wants to do something about, and they're all walking away from donald trump because if they're fixed, then they lose their constituents. they keep the -- trish: oh -- we just lost your shot, but you came back. you were starting to say if those problems get fixed, they lose their constituents. in other words, they need people to keep out and voting for them. they need to tell them how bad their life is and how it's
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somebody else's fault and they're going to fix it. hopefully, we can fix your satellite feed there, michael. >> yeah. you're absolutely right. look, they blame the rich, they blame the russians, they blame trump, they blame everybody but themselves, and they've been in charge for so long in those states and in those cities. and i might add also, it was my father who signed the legislation giving us martin luther king day. trish: you know, that's a very good point, a very good point, an important one today. ronald reagan signed this legislation giving us this holiday. let me show this to you, because this is pretty horrifying to see. this is a poll on race relations in america right now, and this is, you know, the percentage of americans that see race relations in america as generally bad from abc news and "the washington post" back in july 2008 when obama, you know, was first coming in there, 37% of americans thought that race relations were generally bad. and guess what? michael, 63%, the majority of
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americans now say race relations in america are generally bad. i would agree with them, but how sad is this, that our first black president was not able to do more to repair this damage? >> no, because he didn't really try to do more to repair the damage in the inner cities. look in his ownty of chicago. what has -- his own city of chicago? what has he done to repair any of the damage there? instead, he sits back and, again, he blames. he blames racism only on one group of people. he doesn't see anybody else involved in racism except for finish. trish: so is he inflaming the situation, michael, with some of his rhetoric when you think about the cops and the challenges they're facing right now, and the president seems to be blaming the cops as opposed to the challenges these cities are actually facing on a violence level, chicago a great example. >> look at the painting they had
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to take down how many times, three times off the walls of congress depicting cops as pigs? where was the president on that? what did he say about that? what is he saying about john lewis? john lewis not showing up, you know, for the inaugural taking place on friday? he says nothing, nothing at all. trish: you know, actually, i don't know if you heard governor huckabee had a clever response to all that. he read, in fact, hillary clinton's statement that she made on donald trump suggesting that donald trump would challenge the legitimacy of the presidency should she win, and it was quite pointed and quite strong. those are the kinds of words that the country needs to hear from the president and from hundt right now -- hillary clinton right now. >> trish, you know what i find kind of interesting? i wrote an op-ed piece on this. you know, the fact that back in the 1980s ted kennedy, jimmy carter and tip o'neill, all three of them at one point went to either the kgb or the russian
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ambassador to the united states to enlist their help in trying to defeat ronald reagan for the president service oi the -- presidency of the united states of america. trish: wow. all right. we're going to leave it on that note. michael reagan, thank you so much. good to have you here on this day. all right, the president-elect putting china on notice that everything is on the negotiating table including the one china policy that recognizes china's claim to taiwan and has been in place since 1979. it's a big shot across the bow the china, and china is responding by calling donald trump a, quote, rookie and threatening to take off the gloves, whatever that means. it kind of makes me think china would have preferred someone like hillary clinton the oval office. anyway, you know what the reality is for all of us? the whole let's play nice in the sand box thing, it isn't working. china steals billions of dollars from us in intellectual property via piracy every year.
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they slap huge tariffs on the goods we send them. isn't it time we got tough? former cia analyst bob sexton is next on that. why pause a spontaneous moment? cialis for daily use treats ed and the urinary symptoms of bph. tell your doctor about your medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have a sudden decrease or loss of hearing or vision, or an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis.
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trish: president-elect donald trump telling "the wall street journal" the one china policy is up for negotiation. an editorial running in the chinese state-owned newspaper responds to that, calling donald trump a, quote, riskable rookie and goes on to say, quote: if trump continues to take this gambit, actions will be unavoidable as beijing will have no choice but to take off the gloves. the chinese president is attending the the world economic forum in davos, switzerland, all just days ahead of donald
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trump's inauguration. joining me right now is former cia analyst bob sexton. bob, good to have you here. he's trying something new at least, right? i guess the question is, is it going to work? china seems to be listening. >> this is always the paradox with the u.s. foreign policy establishment. they want better foreign policy outcomes, but they also want status quo at the same time. the one china policy, which china's saying is nonnegotiable, is all premised on the eventual status of negotiations to figure out what will happen with taiwan. so off the bat this is the kind of bellicose rhetoric you expect from china. i think trump is going to meet them in kind, by way. he will play this game because he understands they're doing it for domestic consumption, not necessarily acting on the kinds of things they're saying. but trump is taking a totally different perspective on foreign policy across the board, as he said he would, and that is we're going the look at everything, and we're going to use leverage where we can. i'm not going to come into office and assume there are some things that can't even be
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discussed or touched, and he's taking a different perspective from the obama administration which even when it had the better cards in the poker game seemed to always want to fold right away. [laughter] whether it was cuna -- trish: no, it's true. >> a guy who shows up and says i'm going to buy a car before you even negotiate over the price. trish: negotiation was not obama's strength. >> it was not. trish: anybody who's done a deal knows you've got to at least be willing to walk, number one, and there's got to be sort of a hard to get mentality. china, by the way, is doing some things that's really ticking us off. i mean, they're stealing our intellectual capital, billions of year that's lost via their piracy. china is, you know, slapping tariffs to the tune of almost 10% on some of the goods that are coming in from the u.s. so if we really want to compete with china, we need to at least create a level playing field whether or not stealing -- where
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they're not stealing our stuff and slapping taxes on everything. >> and that's going to require real pushback. there was supposed to be the pivot to asia, we were going to be refocusing u.s. foreign policy in the region and looking at these issues that you mentioned that were supposed to be addressed over the last eight years. and if they've been addressed, they've been addressed very poorly whether it's north korea, trade, the ongoing cyber war, the one-way trade war really we're already in with china, currency manipulation, building military bases in the south china sea, expanding upon them, all of the rhetoric it uses towards its neighbors in the pacific littoral areas, and when we look at the leverage that we have, what what are we using? what foreign policy objectives are we achieving here? trump saying we're going to negotiate is, one, a promise he's made all along in the campaign and beyond and, two, how much worse are the policy outcomes going to be given what we're already seeing with china in. trish: you think about the fear, and, of course, this is one of
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the reasons we saw the one china policy initially in 1979, the fear is that china and rush a shah were -- russia are going to gang up against us, and that was obama's fear as well. and all of a sudden you have donald trump speaking more positively about vladimir putin, but in other words, if you're playing your cards right and you're looking at this as a real chess game, you don't necessarily want russia as the enemy working with china. i mean, maybe he's just turning a lot of these, you know, tradition always of approach completely on their head. >> up balancing your opponents on -- unbalancing your opponent toes is always a good thing. you want consistency with your allies, you want enemies, to opponents, those who are difficult to not necessarily know how you're going to act. you obviously don't want to start a hot war with a country over nothing, but on issues like trade and diplomatic relations, you should try some separate
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gems that haven't been used without effect before, and you should expand the pallet of things you're willing to go with. and i think trump is doing that. with china we could see some different outcome, and the one china policy is nonnegotiable. it is all premised on negotiation. [laughter] so that has to happen. trish: oh, it's going to be an interesting four years, for sure. bob sexton, good to have you here. we're going to be right back. looking sharp, len. who's the lucky lady? i'm going to the bank, to discuss a mortgage. ugh, see, you need a loan, you put on a suit, you go crawling to the bank. this is how i dress to get a mortgage. i just go to lendingtree. i calculate how much home i can afford. i get multiple offers to compare side by side. and the best part is... the banks come crawling to me. everything you need to get a better mortgage. clothing optional. lendingtree. when banks compete, you win.
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trish: incoming president donald trump telling "the washington post" his obamacare replacement plan is almost finished, and it will provide, quote: insurance for everybody. trump also says he's prepared to go after big pharma in order to reduce drug prices. peter barnes is standing by with more on all of it. wow, peter? >> reporter: trish.
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president-elect not giving us a lot of detail on his plan, a little confusion here inauguration week. he told "the washington post" this weekend, quote: we're going to have insurance for everybody. people will get it even if they don't have the money to pay for better, simpler and less expensive. >> i think what donald trump said very cleary in that washington post is his goal is to get health care for everyone, that is his goal, and he's going to fight tooth and nail to make sure he gets it and uses his skill set as a successful negotiator and businessman to drive costs down. >> reporter: and mr. trump told the post that includes lowering drug prices and that he doesn't care if that rattles drug stocks or the markets. mr. trump's comments to the post have raised new questions about whether he's talking about some form of universal health care here. republicans in congress have generally favored universal access to health coverage but not guaranteed universal coverage. but that can be achieved either
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ways including with tax breaks, for example. many trump did say that he -- mr. trump did say that he will not propose the government single-payer system. trish? trish: all right. peter barnes, thank you so much. joining me right now is former new york lieutenant governor betsy mccoy. betsy, i was just telling you as peter was talking, i read this article over and over and over again, i'm trying to figure out what exactly this might look like. >> well, he's really telling us two things, i believe. the first is not to worry about the medicaid expansion. in fact, almost all the newly covered, the 20 million that the democratic party keeps talking about, the 20 million newly covered under the affordable care act, three-quarters of those people are in medicaid, and it's quite clear that donald trump is not going to eliminate medicaid. he he has made it a point of saying again and again that the needy, the poor, the low income people will be taken care or -- trish: eric, to don't worry about them -- >> number two, affordability. and this is something you don't
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hear from his opponents, the fact is they're not talking at all about the newly uninsured. but that is a real concern for the nation because, think about it, five million people lost their health coverage when the affordable care act came into being. they had health care they liked, and they were forced to give it up because it was non-obamacare compliant. they couldn't afford obamacare. the new premiums -- trish: okay. so bring down prices, but he also wants the bring down the deductibles. >> oh, yes. so in addition to those five million, take a look at the 6.2 million taxpayers, the filers who are paying a penalty, it amounts to about ten million people altogether because of their children and spouses, paying penalties for not having obamacare. they can't afford it. and another 12 million people who have gotten hardship exemptions. so these are the newly uninsured -- trish: okay. so he's going to go out there and make sure everybody's got
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insurance policy, nobody's going to have a big deductible, but, betsy, how do you afor it? >> first of all, more affordable because you'll get rid of a lot of the mandates that make these washington packages so expensive. secondly, the single biggest factor that drove up premiums, made them double from 2013 to 2014 and 2015 was the rule that insurance companies had to sell to sick people and healthy people for the same price. yes, those with pre-existing conditions will be fully taken care of. but perhaps part of it will be with tax dollars rather than the premiums paid by the healthy. trish: okay. all right, so you think it's going to get done? can it get done? >> yes. i'm quite confident it's going to look good. trish: all right. bette city mccoy, appreciate it. the left is declaring betsy devos enemy number one. they're furious because she supports school choice and vouchers, god forbid. and she wants to shake up our lousy education system.
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so what's the problem here? the system these some change, doesn't it? you know and i know it all comes down to one thing, teachers unions worried about losing power. we're on that story for you next. ♪ ♪ ♪
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. trish: all right. we have breaking news to bring you now on the terrorist massacre in orlando, florida. a u.s. official is saying that the wife of the orlando nightclub shooter has been arrested. was taken into custody this morning in the san francisco area. she faces charges, including obstruction of justice. jeff flock joins us now with the latest on this. jeff. >> this has been a long time coming, trish. the charge apparently in addition to obstruction is providing material support to a terrorist organization. north solomon has said that she was a battered wife who had no idea that her husband was planning what turned out to be the worst mass shooting in modern u.s. history. however, the fbi came to believe that she was not being fully honest, particularly about some trips that she made with her husband, particularly, to disney world,
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apparently to case that as a potential target. reaction today from the police chief in orlando, john mena who we got to know there. he said quote i'm glad to see oh omar mateen's wife was charged, today there is some relief in knowing that someone will be held accountable for that horrific crime. and expected tomorrow in a federal court in san francisco for her initial appearance on this charges. trish: jeff, thank you. >> trish. trish: all right. the left going after the president-elect for secretary of education. betsy, declaring her enemy number one ahead of her big hearing on capitol hill tomorrow. supports school vouchers. she supports charter schools. she supports school choice. she has vowed to shake up the entire broken education system. you see, she actually wants to
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see some real change in our schools. and what's the problem with that? well, democrats are just furious about this nomination. absolutely lived because you know what? her chans will empower parents. not the teachers unions. and the dems pretty much in the bad for the unions. joining me now conservative commentator and fox news contributor leslie marble. tina, you know, i don't know how you in good conscious can look at a mother in the eye who wants the best opportunity for her child and knows that if she just had a school voucher if she could make that choice herself for her child. she wouldn't send that child to some lousy public school that is just turning kids out, putting them through, going through the motions. she would give her achild the best opportunity. why don't we want that for every child in america? why is the left standing in the way of this one? >> it is all about money and power. and this issue threatens their
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very existence, trish. you know, my husband was a state senator in missouri, and i remember how hard the teachers unions would work against him. not just in terms of money but also in terms of manpower. you wanted turnout at the polls, you wanted people to help you in the campaign. and the democrats always have those teachers unions that would come out in force for them. a special enemy of theirs and here's why. she was beaten them handedly. a group she's associated with spent $530 million to $538 million for school choice races. and won 105 out of 121 of the races on the little tiny shoe string budget. if she can do that, it was that group, imagine what she can do as secretary of education. so, yeah, they've got -- trish: leslie, i don't get it. the left, you know, they say they're trying to work for poor kids, for minority children and urban communities that deserve a better education. and instead of giving parents
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choice and giving kids opportunity, they believe in just writing more checks to the school system, to the unions, and continuing status quo. why can't there be more accountability in public schools? >> well, first of all, the concern i find not only as a mother of an 8 and 9-year-old sitting right behind me, by the way, in addition to the democrats, it's not just the unions because a lot of parents have nothing to do with the unions of political involvement. there are many public school systems in the united states, one i went to in the boston area, not far from where you grew up as well, trish, that was an excellent public school system. so when you talk about choice, there are people that would choose public schools. when you look at inner cities like detroit, which definitely have a very broken system, you know what? a voucher isn't necessarily going to fix that because not every child is going to be accepted to a charter school or private school and where does the money come from? is there going to be enough money to pay for that schooling? so the problem here is the polarization of this nominee
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and the problem here is that she's all the way on the opposite side of many democrats. some democrats just like public schools. but i think most people want a combination of choice and public. trish: i guess the problem is we're doing things here for the lowest common denominator, gina, over and over again. you know, we should be trying to help the majority of kids, rather than, you know, worrying about a couple that can't get in. i mean, we've got to think about the common good here; right? and we want the best possible education for as many students as possible and can't we introduce competition to that education system, which right now, you know, frankly you get a job as a teacher, and you're there for good. it's like tenure. >> good teachers want it. good administrators want it. good public schools should want schools choice. everybody who's interested in the best possible education for our children should want school choice because it not only gives parents and children a lot more options
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and gives children a lot better chance to flourish in a more specified and perhaps tailored educational setting, but it also does ultimately save in costs, so those concerns that leslie has -- trish: and yet they're going after her heart. they do not like what she represents. they do not like the threat that she represents. and the unions, they're scared. the teachers union is scared right now. but maybe that's how they should feel. gina, leslie, thank you very much. i'm going to see you guys in a minute. so don't go anywhere. toby keith accepting the to perform at the president-elect's inauguration. two other performers have been rather scared, shall we say, by a lot of angry liberals. the latest on toby keith. i realize that ah, that $100k is not exactly a fortune.
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trish: fours days and country superstar toby keith proudly accepting the president's invitation -- president-elect i should say at this point, to perform the inauguration. he says he's not going to apologize to anyone for it. he says quote i don't apologize for performing for our country or military. i performed at events for previous presidents. george w. bush and barack obama and over 200 shows in iraq and afghanistan for the uso. this is singer jennifer holiday. she's a tony-award-winning singer on broadway.
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she pulled out of a planned performance after serious liberals blasted her for it. she even apologized to her fans, calling it a quote lapse of judgment. so much for liberal tolerance; right? joining me right now fox news radio host todd, always good to see you. we talked a lot about this intolerance on the left. you see many, many examples of it. this seems to be another. what do you think of toby keith, though, going out there and saying you know what? i wi not -- >> yeah. trish: i will not get down in the gutter effectively with any of you. i will not apologize for performing for our country, for our president, for our military. how do you distinguish him from the rest of the group right now? >> well, first of all, toby keith is from oklahoma and sings country music, so you can guarantee he's a patriot. compare that to what's happening on broadway. it's not just jennifer holiday, it's also the rockettes and other holiday
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stars who have spoken out quite -- they've been really ugly. really ugly towards donald trump. trish: alexander hamilton as it's called, that show where mike pence was booed aggressively. really aggressively by that audience there in new york city. broadway show. it doesn't seem as though it's okay to have a different opinion if you're a member of the artistic community right now. >> well, you're absolutely right. look, jennifer holiday was so stunned. she actually defended her appearance at the inauguration. and she actually wrote about all the bullying and the threats that she had been getting. she goes is this what it's -- is this what it has come to in america? and the answer is, yes, it has. as a matter of fact, the following day, she had to go ahead and announce that she was pulling out of the show because she had gotten so many threats, she says from her gay and lesbian fans. trish: it's all so ridiculous. really, really.
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>> you know, here's the solution here, trish. forget about all the celebrities for the next inauguration. let's get the military bans. forget about the auto tuned, lip-scening a listers. let's get some military in there. trish: president obama says his political defeats are due to quote losing the pr battle. yeah, that's it. that's all it was. nothing to do with any of his policies; right? he just didn't have enough of a pr department to sell all of his programs. that's why. all right. we're on that. next the microsoft cloud helps us stay connected. the microsoft cloud offers infinite scalability. the microsoft cloud helps our customers get up and running, anywhere in the planet. wherever there's a phone, you've got a bank, and we could never do that before. the cloud gave us a single platform to reach across our entire organization. it helps us communicate better. we use the microsoft cloud's advanced analytics tools to track down cybercriminals. this cloud helps transform business. this is the microsoft cloud.
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. trish: with just four days left of his presidency, barack obama reflecting on his legacy and where he went wrong in his final interview from the white house. but instead of, you know, taking a little blame, thinking about maybe some missteps he might have had
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along the way, he's blaming the media. he's blaming bad public relations. watch. >> there were big stretches while governing where even though we're doing the right thing, we weren't able to mobilize public opinion firmly enough behind us to weaken the resolve of the republicans to stop opposing us or to corporate with us. and there were times in my presidency where i lost the pr battle. trish: really? because wasn't ben rhodes, his adviser basically saying, you know, you could convince these reporters of anything. they didn't know too much. and you could spin it however you wanted? well, anyway, the president said it was just bad pr. that's all. can't he take any responsibility for his mistakes? or even admit, you know, some folks just didn't agree with his liberal agenda?
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i want to bring back gina and leslie marshall. leslie, pr? bad pr? that's his excuse for what may be a very damaged legacy? >> well, i'm not sure he'll have an entire damaged legacy or as damaged as many of us think it will be now. as always, he will be the first african-american as president. trish: yeah, he has that going for him but a failed economy, the rise of isis. >> isis was in play long before president obama was president or even senator obama. secondly, when we look at the economy, the economy is in better shape than when he stepped into the role of commander-in-chief almost eight years ago. we do have a little unemployment row. we do have job creation. i don't agree it's p, though. and i don't believe this is a referendum on him. look at what has happened since the election and lost.
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we have polls showing they don't want the affordable care act replaced. i don't think he did a good job reaching across the aisle working with republicans. then again, republicans like senator mitch mcconnell made it clear they wanted him to be a one-term guy and wanted to block his legislation at every term. so i don't think that's 100% his blame. trish: okay. gina, i would imagine you differ considerably on things like the economy, on things like isis and race relations, which of course we were just showing that recent poll out of the washington post and abc news that shows the majority of americans now significantly more think that race relations are in a bad spot. so his legacy will be challenged but how do you respond to leslie saying it may have been just pr in the president's statement that it was just bad pr? >> yeah. you feel so bad for this guy, don't you? it's not like he had any help from the media or hollywood. are you kidding me? the media was his pr team,
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trish. nobody has ever had it as barack obama had it. and what he did with it, i'm sorry. it was disgraceful. what he did was instead of taking the values of americans and the things we're concerned about like islamic terror, like an economy that was completely stagnant, like a doubled debt under his presidency, instead of caring about those things, he tried to impose things like gender neutral bathrooms and some sort of bizarre hatred toward police officers just because they were police officers and open borders. those were not american values, trish, and he couldn't impose it on them and now he's blaming pr. . trish: gina makes a pretty good point here in that the media was his pr vehicle. as i mentioned ben rhodes getting reporters to do what he wanted. you had hollywood kneeling, bowing to this first african-american president. and rightly so. everybody should be excited.
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he was the first african-american president. that's great, and we've come so far. but yet we're dealing with yet worse race relations now. >> i'll tell you why and a lot of people aren't going to like what i have to say. but i'm honest with you 100%. you know, this man is commander-in-chief. and, you know, i talked about this with bill o'reilly. you have to respect the office even if you don't respect the man or woman that's holding that office. when you have a sitting congressman scream out you're a liar, never done before, and i don't believe ever will be done again. when you have a lot of people coming out now and some of the rhetoric that we're seeing and signs we're seeing at schools, you know what, trish? i don't believe that we didn't have a race problem. i think people are just more vocal in their hatred now. trish: if that's the case, history is repeating itself because we certainly have many members of the left attacking donald trump in similar ways. i have to leave it there. >> at least republicans showed up for inauguration; right? at least republicans showed up
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. trish: all right. we're just four days away from inauguration day, and i will be live from dc for a special edition of the intelligence report thursday at 2:00 p.m. eastern and friday night. come out with me to the inaugural ball at 8:00 p.m. eastern. i'll be there. liz claman, over to you. liz: trish, did you hear this? breaking news. three more u.s. congressman have just backed out of attending friday's inauguration. we're open for business as president-elect donald trump is just four days from inauguration day. mr. trump is hard at work at trump tower since early this morning. he just met with martin luther king jr. the third as the trump transition team faces this backdrop. this fast-growing wave of men and women that say they will sit out the inauguration. jerry from new york is one of

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