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the track and field photo. six people told us that. it was not that kid. that is something, i have learned with breaking news and trying to be first, take a step and and take a deep breath ask questions and have it withied, especially now the pace of news. it is more important than ever. >> you can watch this entire program on the future of journalism tonight at 9:00 eastern here on c-span, online as c-span.org or on the radio with the free c-span radio app. >> presidential candidate senator kirsten gillibrand spoke at the presidents forum. she was asked about gun violence and the congressional agenda. the new york democrat set down with political reporter robert
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castor -- robert costa at this event hosted by the washington post. >> through these in depth one-on-one conversations we're learning more about the men and women seeking the presidency of the united states and what inspires them to serve the american people. our guest this morning is new york senator kirsten gillibrand. in 2006 she captured the attention of the political establishment winning an upset victory in the race to represent new york's 20th congressional district. just three years later she was appointed to the fill the senate seat of one of her mentors, former secretary of state hillary clinton. now in her second full term, she's working on behalf of women.
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she has endorsed paid family leave, reducing maternal mortality and spoken out against sexual harassment and assault including in congress. today we'll hear more about these efforts and senator gillibrand's other priorities such as medicare for all, gun control and immigration policy and share with us thoughts about her campaign including her strategy for making it onto the democratic stage in houston next month. please join me in welcoming senator kirsten gillibrand and "the washington post's" bob costa. [applause] bob: thank you so much for joining us on washington post life. . am robert costa we appreciate you taking the time.
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thank you so much for being here. sen: gillibrand: my pleasure. bob: a few weeks before labor day and you were struggling in the polls nationally. what is your path ahead? sen: gillibrand: i am really proud of for our campaign is. we had our first qualifying paul and i expect to get what i need in the next few weeks. we are leading the debate on a lot of important issues. what we have seen over the last year and a half from president trump is an all-out assault on women's reproductive freedom and we went to the front lines to talk about what this means for women. it is a health care issue for they don't have the ability to make their own decisions about whether to have children, how may children they can have. it is an issue of economics, not having the health care they need. this will fall to the women who do not have enough money to
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travel out of state. issues of basic human rights. you are telling women that cannot have agency over their own bodies to make hard decisions. i also went to the front lines in georgia. we have been leading the debate on a family bill of rights. why paid leave matters. why equal pay for equal work matters. and making sure no matter who you are, or where you live or who you love, you can actually access family rights like national paid leave and adopting children. despite all of that, i think it is important my voice is heard on the national stage so we can talk about these issues. it is why i hope your viewers donate. bob: despite all the things you have laid out, you have
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struggled to get attention and traction. why do you think that is? sen: gillibrand: i feel this is an opportunity for democrats to really see what we stand for as a party. to lift up voices that are not being heard. one of the things i am most proud of his i am living the debate in certain areas. i think my voice needs to be on the next debate stage. the rules we have for the d&c are new and most people are not aware of. to get to the debate stage i need to have 130,000 individual supporters and i am just over 110,000. i am hoping everyone here sends one dollar so i can make the debate stage. you also need to have a national poll. ising enough national polls important. they are not my rules. i have to follow them. i have to meet these goals and i
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believe in the grassroots. i believe every person in this room, every person watching, that their voice actually matters. here speakingam to all of your listeners and viewers to say your voice matters today. want money out of politics on that debate stage, i hope you will agree my voice is needed. bob: will you make the debate stage in houston? sen: gillibrand: i believe i will. bob: how close are you? sen: gillibrand: very. but i need help. bob: they are aware of the website by now. sen: gillibrand: you keep asking me so i keep telling you. bob: you are trying to get on the stage, if you don't make the stage -- sen: gillibrand: i am going to make the stage. bob: if a candidate does not
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make the stage, should they reconsider their campaign? sen: gillibrand: it is up to them. also have a very different experience than other candidates coming from a blue state. you either have to be a uber progressive who can inspire the base or be a moderate who wins the red or purple areas. i believe you have to do both. not only do i lead on women's rights and gay rights and will pass the green new deal, i know how to do it. i passed big legislation. don't ask, don't tell repeal. the 9/11 health bill, i just made it permanent so our first responders had health care compensation for the rest of their lives. president trump assigned each of these bills into law even know he does not know he did.
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i get a lot done. even more important is electability. red and purple places in new york than higher-margin than anyone before. clinton,an hillary president obama, any person who has ever run for senate or governor. 72% is my threshold. i can win in places like ohio, pennsylvania and wisconsin. bob: you say you don't need to be just a moderate or liberal. sen: gillibrand: you need to be both. bob: where do you fit into that spectrum? sen: gillibrand: i am at the forefront of a lot of our progressive issues. i know a lot of the parts of it. i know you have to put a price on carbon to use market forces to address global climate change. i know how to find republicans to do it on a bipartisan basis. you need somebody who is both.
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at the forefront of big ideas, women's rights, gay rights, picking shirt we don't compromise our values and knowing how to find republicans to work with you. when we repealed don't ask, don't tell, we did not water down the bill. we found brave republicans to help lead the way. there were democrats who said to me, why are you doing this now? it is not convenient. i'd look them in the eye and said, when our civil rights ever convenient? you do it because it is the right thing to do. donew how to get things and that is what everybody needs. i am a progressive but i know how to find common ground to do things on a bipartisan basis. bob: should chairman nadler introduce articles of impeachment this fall? yes gillibrand: my view is
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because i believe we have a responsibility. we have a responsibility to provide oversight and accountability over the executive branch imola report is detailed. it has multiple serious, factual analyses of instruction of justice. robert mueller said to us, if he could have exonerated the have.ent, he would he also said clearly he did not believe you have a legal basis to indict. i think he laid out that report that it is your job, congress, to go through the allegations, the facts, lifted up to the american people so we know what took place. i think we need to be in the barr,hment proceedings, which i think is essential given the allegations in the report. president trump continues to
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obstruct that. i think it is necessary. i do understand the importance of what speaker pelosi has put forward that we want the american people to know our agenda. she has done that. the first few days hys hason doe that. getting money out of politics, economic issues, job training how to vitalize. she is on it. mr. costa: you went after joe biden on his recent debate on as uppity year ago. on policy, what are the key differences between you and him? he is leading in the polls. sen. gillibrand: i don't know. he wrote an op-ed a long time ago where he said some pretty stark things even for that time. he said that a parent working outside the home was resulting in the deterioration of the family. he said a parent working outside was avoiding
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responsibility. as a woman who has worked outside the home for her pro-life, had two sons and that i is too affordable, high-quality day care at the time, i wanted to know specifically what did you mean when you wrote those things. did you think me, a member of congress, was somehow undermining the family or deteriorating the family or i was avoiding responsibility? weespectfully just asked didn't have the conversation. let me explain why this matters to me personally. not only did my grandmother worked outside the home a long time ago, because it was my mother worked outside the home. i want to know why he believed they were somehow deteriorating the family. i'm running for
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president of the united states and why i believe instead of a misogynist in the white house, we need a working mom. it is why i have let on these all peopleaking sure can have access to paid family leave. it is why i lead on making affordable day care and universal pre-k a central part of my campaign. the question is a legitimate -- legitimate question. what has changed is that he is running for president. when he has written the stores and said something so far out of i justth the already, need to know that you don't believe it anymore. that is a legitimate question. -- we have seen you criticize them on that issue. broadly, do you have any policy with vice president biden
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on foreign policy and economic policy? sen. gillibrand: on trade. i think nafta has been a disaster in places like upstate new york and long island and michigan and pennsylvania, wisconsin. when you sign on to a bad trade deal that is a giveaway to corporate interests, it harms us. i think trumps bad trade deal is a giveaway to companies in new mexico, locking in higher profits then they would ever be entitled to his a giveaway. that is what is wrong with some of our trade agreements. i did not support ttp. specifically, to transpacific partnership, because there were locked and guarantees for multinational companies where they would have more power than a local government trying to protect our air and water. imagine our country is trying to
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say this particular byproduct of this manufacturer is causing cancer. we don't want it in our air or water we want litigation against the multinational company. under that tdp agreement, they did not have the right to do that. that is out rages. i really cannot support bad trade agreements that are giveaways. vice president biden sports a public option under obama's health care law. democraticthe nominee, how do you fight that argument on the right? medicare fornd: on all? it is easier i'm different from oath can't -- most candidates running for president because i have an understanding about how people who live in his will read places who are republican see the world.
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i hate to admit this but i have uncles who voted for trump. [laughter] so i know what: is going on in their minds. when i ran for congress, in 2005, iran on medicare for all. traveling around my congressional district, this was pre-obamacare. frome were being dropped their coverage because of pre-existing conditions. their insurance company's charge too much money, co-pays and deductibles were too high. issue. life or death every issue the american people care about our kitchen table issues, that they struggle with every night that they cannot get sleepover because they are worried about it. their child is sick and they do not know how to pay for the treatment they need to know what is feel -- what it feels like to be a mom who has anxiety about a child here at -- a child.
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a toddler has an allergic reaction to eggs. -- his eye,is high his face blew up the right doused him and water and gave him benadryl and rushed to the emergency room. i was afraid his throat would close. the one thing i was not afraid of is i had an insurance card in my wallet and a credit card in my wallet. imagine every mother or father rush into the emergency room who has no security or knowledge that they could buy whatever health care their child needs to save their life. that is the reality for people today, for people in 2005. i said to my district, how would you feel if you could buy medicare at a price you could afford, the matter what, it is always there for you, always there for you. they loved it. this is a 2-1 republican district. if i am president, i can go to anywhere in this country and say, why not have a
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not-for-profit public option competing with your insurance that charges you too much money. why do you think a for-profit company cares about whether you get access to the medicine you need or that second day in the hospital or the treatment that costs too much money? they don't appear they have an obligation to their shareholder and that to you. it is how the economy works. it is their obligation. i can sensibly say to them let's at least not have an -- let's at least have a not-for-profit insurance company. i can take it to republican members of congress and say let's just try and he how it aboutbefore you go medicare for all the people who are smart in the room who know a it willt health care, have to cover vision and dental and hearing. people have to buy extra insurance to get it. make it work. make sure the reimbursement
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rates to the hospital actually covers costs. you can build on those changes to medicare. give them five years. create a transition time, which i wrote into senator sanders bill. it is necessary. let people buy and over years and see how many buy in? i would not be surprised if it was 90% of americans pay more than 90% of americans -- would you like to have access to all the health you need a $4000 a year? you would want it. you mention an uncle who supported president trump -- sen. gillibrand: i have not spoken to him about it. so i do not know why. i said that cannot be true, they knew how much i loved hillary. it cannot be true. >> you had to persuade voters to support you.
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now you represent the whole state of new york and you're of the for president united states. how do you convince those uncles and others like them who support gun rights to now support gun control? sen. gillibrand: this is also easy for me. so, i think the amount of gun in the lastve seen decade is alarming. we do not want to live in a world where we teach our children shelter in place drills as opposed to master else. fear everyagine the becauses feeling now the last shooting was sam was families going to walmart for back-to-school shopping. it is not an america we should there isive in, where so much anxiety and easy access is individual shooters have two
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weapons of war. america today, we have americans division hate, racism, , hunting down other people with weapons of war. i think there is already common ground on this. i think nra members want to ban military style assault weapons and large magazines. they want universal background checks. i cannot imagine something more common sense than people on the terror watch list not being able to buy a weapon. the last one is the easiest. it just says law enforcement -- after gun traffickers. a city like chicago or new york city, it is true. his weapons get sold to gang members with no opportunity for a background check because there is no federal anti-gun trafficking law. we got 58 votes. you need 58 votes to pass the law senate.
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if mitch mcconnell had the courage to stand up to an array, we would stand up on those three measures and i would not be surprised if all of them passed today. mr. costa: should the federal government ban assault weapons and force people to sell them? we have abrand: federal statute right now that mandates how we treat certain weapons of war. we use them requiring certain weapons or like machine guns that you have to get your fingerprints done and have background checks. you could use the same statute for all military style assault weapons. i think you should make it illegal to buy them or sell them. you do not want to create a black market. should be illegal to use them. we should pass a federal ban on these weapons and large magazines. frameworkregulatory
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and you should have a nationwide buyback so people who purchase these weapons because they are gun enthusiasts could actually have them purchased back by the federal government. that is the framework you should use. people to sellt them back? sen. gillibrand: you would create fear using that language. but you could basically get it done through the combination of a guaranteed federal buyback combined with this mandatory registration as we use the framework for machine guns over a decade ago. to keepa: if you choose the gun in your home, there is not a penalty under your plan? sen. gillibrand: you could look at that, but if it is just in your home and you're not using it or buying or selling it, there is no harm there. you want to make sure there is no buying or selling and you can look at it and keep all options on the table but your first step would be the regulatory
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framework combined with a ban on assault weapons and a ban on purchasing and selling. i think that is the strongest and effective legal framework you can create. >> and has been well tread territory that you have evolved over the years. you have an effort in from the nra. the question i have when you think about your history on guns, did your private views change over the years or were you always against guns but for political reasons were supportive of the nra? simplellibrand: it was for me. as a member of congress 10 years ago, i supported the second amendment. i still support the second amendment. what i recognized when i became a senator is i need to do much more. gun violence and gun death across our state and our country.
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i should have cared what was happening in places outside of my district. i recognized pretty quickly i was wrong and i was going to lead on the issue. when you meet a family who lost someone to gun violence, it changes you. meeting with the parents of a as a teenage girl hit me moment where i recognized i was not leading in the way i should have been. i made sure those parents knew she did not die in vain and i made sure her classmates knew ast i will lift up her story an urgency about why we need to end gun violence in this country. with a why got to work number of advocates on how we have gun violence. authored the anti-gun trafficking law. a lot in the city with his young
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girl lost her life -- >> what about before that when columbine happened? it is not about what you should have done, what were your personal views when columbine happened or come violence before 2009, regardless of your political position? sen. gillibrand: i have always been against gun violence and gun deaths and against children losing their lives. that is who i am and it has always been way. as a member of congress, i should have been looking to legislative solutions to protect those people. recognize humility to i was wrong. imagine president trump admitting he is wrong on anything? humility, thehe wisdom, or the courage to do that and it makes him a weaker leader. we should want a president who can admit when they are wrong. sexual harassment issues in the military and
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nationally, what is your context looking back for how you handle that? for those whod: remember that moment in time, senator franken had eight credible allegations against him that were corroborated in real time. two were since he was elected. seventh and eighth, the eighth one got my attention, it was a congressional staffer. i have been working in this space for a long time trying to end sexual violence in the military, trying to end sexual violence on college campuses, trying to end sexual harassment in congress. the point where enough was enough and i could not defend him. i could not defend groping and forcible kissing, unwanted kissing and forcible groping. i decided i had to say i could not supported anymore and i could not support him.
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other senators followed me, some within minutes, many of whom are running for president today. it may not seem like that today because i seem to stand alone. but i would do it again. because i just talked to that congressional staffer and i would stand by her today and i would do to get in. it is hard. there are some democratic donors who want to punish me for the behavior of senator franken and hold me accountable for his decisions. my decision was to call on him to resign. his decision was to resign and not wait for his congressional hising, to not wait for next election. those are his decisions. and his alone. did you call on senator schumer to work with you at the time? will notibrand: i divulge private conversations but i can tell you a spoke with many colleagues after the fifth
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and sixth allegations, they were disturbing. one of the women had come forward and i know what happens in the military. i know what courage it takes for someone in the military to come forward. theirften than not, careers are ended when they come forward. there often blamed and retaliated against. it is very hard, which is why i have been leading the issue. i was very concerned this was something that was very hard for me to stay silent. oft was shared by a number people at the time. they had their own personal views about how they felt. our work was to keep moving along. having hearings and press conferences, work on military sexual assault on
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ending sexual harassment in congress. this is all happening at the same time. it was a particularly start -- disturbing time for many of us. how should cases like this to be handled in the future question mark should the senate wait for the ethics committee to review? there is arand: process. a convoluted and poorly run process i was working to advise to make a better process, which we actually ultimately passed my bill unanimously. is that you are entitled to a hearing by the ethics committee. but you are not entitled to the silence of your colleagues. of congress to stay silent and not be heard on some may care passionately about, whether we value women, whether these women who are survivors deserve someone to stand by them, that is absurd.
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for our party to ask members of the u.s. senate, particularly the women members who came forward to say enough was enough, i think is an outrage. >> you call the allegations against senator franken credible. you said you spoke to one of his accusers. would you oppose a political comeback by senator franken? sen. gillibrand: there is always room for political redemption for anyone. anyone who wants a second chance is always there for everyone. we are a country that believes in second chances. we believe in someone who has humility and comes forward to say they are sorry and they have paid consequences and want to reemerge. that is always there for everyone. that is a decision for someone to make themselves. it is not my decision. it is certainly not my responsibility. it is for someone else to make their own judgments and decisions care there though always a path for redemption for anybody. what about for
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political journalist mark halperin, who signed a book deal, many democrats participated in his book. does he have a path to rejection or not? sen. gillibrand: it is not for me to judge. it is a choice for any individual to make and they can make it. and arts with humility recognition to a knowledge that you have done some the wrong. people make mistakes all the time. of, you justeasure have to go through it. it depends on what you are accused of and what the facts are and what the allegations are. you have committed a criminal offense, assault, rape, you may be doing jail time. i am someone who believes in someone who has done their time in a criminal setting deserves to have their right to vote back. we want redemption for anyone. these are different allegations.
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it is just, you made a mistake, or you have harassed someone, there is a different path there not a criminal allegation. >> do you approve or disapprove the democrats who participated in that book? sen. gillibrand: i do not know enough about why they chose to do that. it is not my job to be the purview of approval or disapproval. looking at the economy now, are you heading into a recession or not? you represent wall street, what is your read on the economy? i disagree with president trump that there is a conspiracy. [laughter] mr. costa: what do you mean by that? sen. gillibrand: i disagree with president trump that the economy is strong for everyone and that the fake news of america today is somehow misleading the american people.
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spend a day in youngstown ohio. onas there about a month ago my broken promises bus tour to talk about all of the broken promises, about getting the cost of prescription drugs down and went straight to the voters who voted for him. i showed democrats how i would be president trump, how he lied to the american people and misled them and i would go right to the backyard. that, i was in youngstown, ohio, and i met men and women who just lost her jobs because they closed the plant down. were notified by text messages having worked at the company for 20 or 30 years. i met a community hollowed out because it's a massive job losses. they do not feel like the economy is soaring. they continue to see how bad the trade deals affect them negatively and this is communities left behind.
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believe the economy has to be our priority. is making sure anyone underemployed gets access to job training, using state schools and apprenticeship programs and not for profits to hone their skills and have the access to the jobs in the fields they want to make sure we invest in communities that are left behind because of bad trade deals and we invest in them. as ahe green new deal platform to invest in markets and when the solar and hydropower and turbine manufacturing and in communities left behind. as president, you can marshal federal resources to going to duties that are desperate for job growth and opportunity like youngstown, ohio. i think president trump has not spent time talking to real people about what is going on in their lives. even in a state that has stated
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an unemployment rate, we want it much higher. the unemployment rate is far toher than estimated 30 go ohio and pennsylvania, you go to places like iowa and new hampshire, they will tell you, they might have a job and may not be counted as unemployed, but they are deeply underemployed. you see it on the number of people living below the poverty line. i was an example, the unemployment rate is two point something, but 20% of people are living below the poverty line. cannot put together enough hours, they cannot put together a high enough pay to provide for their families. some of your rivals take pride in thing wall street would fear them if they were elected president. should wall street fear you? you gillibrand: i believe need to do a lot of things differently in any needs to be far more oversight and accountability over various financial industries. i would first reveal -- repeal
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the trump tax cut, a massive giveaway for the most elite of in terms of wealthy americans but also amongst the elite and successful companies. i would leave in place middle and it is worth about $1 trillion. it is just not your biggest bang for the buck. i would be investing in employees in youngstown, ohio, to be sure they have access to new jobs and new economies a new manufacturing in their communities so they can continue to thrive in their community. that is where i would put investment, into real job training. i would invest in national public service. i would tell every young person in the country, who would like debt-free college, if you're willing to do one year of public service, we can pay for two years of community college and state school.
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years, -- if you're willing to do two years, you can have four years paid for. that would change our country and character overnight. anecdote toan president trump's cabinet, corruption, selfishness, smallness, the best thing to do possess young people to spend a year helping others first. a great anecdote to the division and hate. >> you have been talking about abortion rights. if you were president, what would the federal government do from a federal level to intervene in some states where they are making new abortion laws in republican states? sen. gillibrand: i would only appoint justices that agree with roe v. wade as love of the land. women have a constitutional right for privacy for over 40 years. it is stated law.
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who will say,dges this is stated law and it is precedent. president trump listed 20 justices that he knew would overturn roe v. wade. i think we should knowledge it is a basic human civil right. i will codify it so it is not left up to the next president to take away women's constitutional rights. repeal the federal law that prohibits federal money from spending on reproductive care, including abortion services. that really harms low income women. it harms communities of color. it is an economic issue as well as a health care issue, as well as human rights. i will repeal that. i will make sure that abortion services are included so matter what state you live in, you have coverage and access no matter your no matter how bad governor is, no matter how bad
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your legislature is, that you will have these basic reproductive rights. >> what about critics on judicial nominees, what about the independence of the judiciary and nominees to not have to give a hard answer? >> it is about human rights. i think four years of this established precedent, it would be shocking to the american consciousness if women no longer had bodily autonomy. it would be shocking that we could not have basic reproductive rights. i think having any other standard is a denial of what the law of the land has been for over 40 years. as shocking as undermining other basic rights in this country. >> if the situation in hong kong deteriorates, what should be done? you have studied china for a long tom -- a long time. i was going to:
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say something in chinese but that is too cheeky. have livedthere under a different legal framework for a long time. the agreements that were made during the changeover were specific. they never imagined they could be extradited to mainland china bound to the laws of mainland china. they never could've imagined they would have no free speech rights. they never could have imagined they would be denied basic constitutional freedoms like the right to protest. that is happening in hong kong today. they are rightfully protesting. we as americans who believe in basic human rights are supporting them. this president has been unwilling to stand up to strongman all across the globe. unwilling to stand up to china, to russia.
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should stand up to them and say, if you want to have a within america that will engage with you on the world stage, and engage with you on economic issues and on trade, you should not cross the line. that is the power of the american government, that you can have not only the bully pulpit, but you engage the world community. president trump could be engaging with asia to have united front and say this violation of basic human right's should not stand and we expect more of you, if you intend to be part of the community, it is called leverage. it is pressure. do in the we used to world. america used to be a beacon of light and hope. we used to hold allies accountable when they were wrong. president trump does not do that. mr. costa: should the u.s. consider sanctions? sen. gillibrand: absolutely sanctions are a tool in the
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toolbox to pressure a country when they are doing the wrong things. president trump won't use it against russia or the saudi's, or have an honest conversation with the prime minister of israel. that is wrong. he should be a better leader and should not be shrinking away from his responsibilities on the world stage. >> indulge me for a minute. define your current relationship with the clintons. i think hillary is still one of the greatest role models in the nation. she inspired women and girls worldwide to dream big. the 55 million cracks in the glass ceiling. i consider her a great mentor and friend and i value the clintons and what they have done for the country in terms of decades of service for this
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country. president clinton has provided leadership and decades to this country. it is admirable. it time for mail deposit go back to the big apple? mayor deblasio: has done extraordinary things for the country especially new york city. he has let on making sure we have universal pretaped. he has led on a $15 minimum wage. i'm grateful to his death for his service. do you support senator mark israel action? sen. gillibrand: god bless their both -- them both. i will likely support my college but i think it is premature. mr. costa: would you be open to serving on the ticket if you are not the nominee? sen. gillibrand: sure. i am here because my faith has really inspired me to serve, to
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make public service my life mission. if i'm called to serve in any capacity, i will do it. mr. costa: are you confident in the new defense secretary on sexual sub issues? sen. gillibrand: no. mr. costa: final thing. if called on -- you have called on representative steve king to resign. sen. gillibrand: as he should. over incendiary comments he made on abortion. his response, odds of my resignation are the same of --rs winning the president nomination for president -- zero. sen. gillibrand: can you read his statements for the group? it is something like, i don't even want to say it. it is so outrageous. he should resign. the republicans forced him to resign? sen. gillibrand: yes.
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they should have a backbone and stand up to someone and their own party who said something so harmful and demeaning to humanity, that he should be forced to resign by his party. but again, we have not seen .ourage or strength they do not stand up to president trump and people in the party. democrats should be proud of who we are that we value women and believe women and stand up for women and that there fundamentally the heart and soul of our party. [applause] appreciatewe really the time you've taken to be with us. thank you very much and thank you for joining us. we appreciate it. [applause] sen. gillibrand: thank you, everybody. [applause] [indistinct conversations]
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>> represented is omar and to lead will have a calm -- news conference this afternoon, expected to address the travel -- their travel to israel last week. here on c-span, online at c-span.org, or listen with the free c-span radio app. eastern,t 9:00 p.m. millennial journalists talk about the future of journalism and talk about fake news. for buzz feed described what it was like trying to be the first media organization to try and break a media story.
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it can be an asset but on the flip side, it can be detrimental we have an editor and a copy editor. story, when it was moving quickly, we miss identified the shooter. they told us it is like so, that kid in the track and field photo. that looks like ok, ok, yes. it was not that kid. that was something i have learned, especially in breaking be first, toto step back and take a deep breath and verify more, especially now with the pace of news.
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more important than ever. >> you can watch the entire program on millennial's in the future of journalism tonight at 9:00 eastern here on c-span online, and listen on the free c-span radio app. >> now, a senate agent hearing on fraud. a u.s. postal inspector and telik medications consultant testify on the impact of robo call scams and how to better educate the public. this is one hour and 45 minutes.

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