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have voted democrat. they didn't. shows you how complex this election year has been. people's choices made not by political connections. >> thanks martin. that's it for us. "cnn tonight with don lemon" starts now. live at the capitol where donald trump makes history in 14 hours taking the oath of office and becoming president of the united states. thanks for joining us. incoming first family celebrating tant with a dinner for campaign donors. >> this was a victory for all of us. a victory for all of us. >> that followed a concert at lincoln memorial, the president-elect telling the
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cheering crowd this. >> we are going to make america great again. and i'll add greater than ever before. thank you very much. and enjoy the fireworks. thank you everybody. thank you. >> but after the fireworks, after the inaugural address and pageantry and parades, the hard work of governing the nation begins. is team trump ready and what will happen on day one. get no all of that. david -- douglas brinkley, kirsten powers, david swerd lick, mark preston, emily jane fox and david gergen. and that's it for us tonight with all of that said. that's all the time we have. before i get to all of you,
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bring in to give us rundown of the day, senior white house correspondent jim live at blair house where the president-elect arrived and will spend the night. good evening to you. donald trump just wrapped up candlelight dinner. what did he have to say? >> reporter: vintage donald trump. not holding back. interesting moments in there meeting with the vice president and having dinner with him and major donors to the campaign and republican cause in the last election. during his remarks, this was one of these moments where you heard donald trump unplugged. he was not holding back. at one point talked about how he hopes to win re-election in in 2020, not sworn in yet and already thinking ahead to the 2020 race. when he said he would like to win -- what sounded like a
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reference to perhaps the popular vote the next time around. take a listen. >> the next time we're going to win the old fashioned way, we're going to win because we did so well. because it was so overwhelming, the thing that we did. because it was so beautiful how great our cabinet, all of whom are here tonight, how great our cabinet has performed. we have a cabinet i believe the likes of which has infer been appointed never been appointed. never been a cabinet like this. i will say the other side is going absolutely crazy. >> now that comment at end was echo of what we heard earlier today speaking at his hotel to guests gathered there, members of his cabinet when he described them as having the highest iq of any cabinet in american history. but don i think point to moments
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at that event earlier this evening at union station, part of which you just played there, which i think will create unfortunate headlines, at one point talked about jared kushner, said if he can't get peace in the middle east, nobody can. saying that son-in-law will be brokering a middle east peace agreementment and at one moment, cringeworthy, referred to campaign manager from the campaign kellyanne conway as baby. i'm not sure that's the tone you want to set heading into your inauguration don. >> yeah. we all sawta unfold. >> just saying he said it. >> lot of people taking issue especially to the high iq. specifically talk about david gegen about that. but other big event what's concert at lincoln memorial.
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president-elect and first family seemed to really enjoy that. >> he did and image of the day to see the next president of the united states on the steps of the lincoln memorial. sounding more inclusive tone. perhaps where they wanted to wrap him for the day. talking about bripging country together, making america great again, not only for supporters but for all americans. that's the message a lot of americans are hoping to hear from the new president tomorrow because such a divisive and ugly campaign. if he can strike the chord we heard at lincoln memorial we heard this evening, perhaps bring in some of the skeptics and critics we've heard over the transition period. but interesting. even a moment we saw donald trump singing along with "proud to be an american," i don't
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recall seeing that a lot. looked like he was having fun. >> if you could talk more about tomorrow. if hold him on that one point, probably want to. matter of hours before donald trump becomes president. what can we expect tomorrow jim? >> we're hearing from aides that speech is done, written. he along with main speech writer stephen miller worked on this. and that he's going to be, quote, philosophical, according to his top aides. that's a side we don't see often. not a laundry list of proposals or state of the union but inaugural, more thematic but talk about the issues that got him the support of a lot of the blue-collar workers we talked about in the campaign. infrastructure, manufacturing, building up middle class, these are things you'll hear tomorrow
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but at the same time more than anything given the low approval numbers i think also look to hear donald trump try to bring this country together. may not convince everybody, obviously won't but could be important first step don. >> jim acosta, thank you. now it's time for the panel. start with you david, what about the priorities for the first 100 days. do you think he'll do something big or symbolic? executive orders? >> he may. transition team refuses to rule out the possibility which keeps us on our toes. gotten guidance he's going to do ceremonial and logistic. but whether or not anything else remains to be seen. in terms of priorities, at lincoln memorial event donald trump gave a list of three --
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jobs, building up our military and the border. i would keep your eye on the last one. something coming out of the early executive orders something immigration related because such a heart and soul throughline of the campaign. >> now discuss this evening, what we just saw, tone of this evening. as jim acosta said, maybe the folks would have liked him to stop after arlington or the concert. tone at union station, would you like to weigh in? saying cabinet the highest iq and kellyanne conway made the same comments that president-elect made. >> it's almost hard to talk about this. on the eve of one of the most important rituals of our political life and transfer of power if one president to the next all back to george
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washington, most important thing he did for the country is give up power voluntarily. and when that happens you want next president to do good things for the country. we all hope he will be but gets in his way. so often distracts us. making preposterous claim that cabinet is smartest, highest iq of any cabinet in history. as philip bum p of the "washington post" said he seems to forget washington's cabinet with thomas jefferson and madison and adams up there. there's no sense of proportion and where he fits into the bigger scheme of things. good presidents think of themselves as part of a chain. there are people that came before them and will come after them that did good things for the country and they want to do
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it. his ego gets in the way. tonight david asked whether he was unplugged tonight. he was unhinged. >> yeah. and this is the criticism kiersten when people say he's the president of all of america now. he's sworn in in a couple of hours and shortly president mott president-elect. he's president of all the people not just those who voted for him. and i got to see both conservative and liberal people saying why is he saying this? he doesn't have to talk about victory anymore but should be talking about uniting. >> yeah. but to a certain extent have to make our peace with this is who donald trump is, donald trump unplugged. this is part of his personality. >> but when he talks about 2020 --
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>> he does stream of consciousness for people. entertaining people. seems like to me. either not aware or aware and doesn't care. we don't know which. doesn't care how it makes some people feel. some people actually like that. probably people in the audience liked it very much. trump supporters like it's different and free flowing and who he is. for other people it's alarming and feels unpresidential. he's going to have to decide. now at next point when he walks in the oval office does anything happen? any soebering effect on hem or not? >> if people like it and he's aware, he should understand why people are saying there's nothing normal about today. mechanics but not the behavior of the person going to be sitting in the office. that's not normal. >> and speaking to donors,
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trying to get them excited. one thing to talk about victory but agree with david, rambling and incoherent even in donald trump standards. did so well all day. lincoln memorial fine. and tonight we'll have to live with the unscripted part but i don't think he has a sense of founding fathers, reads presidential biography, cares about history. coming from business and advertising and idea is to tell something, you say it's the best. the hotel is the biggest, greatest, best. and he can't help himself. he's been being that kind of salesman donald trump for so long, had no public service. and it's taken him to the white house, so why get off the salesman rollercoaster. >> carry over throughout entire -- >> couple of things. if he wants to just speak to his base, he's doing what he should be doing. this is what people liked about
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him in the election. >> he already has a base. >> if he wants to be president of everybody just turn it a couple of notches. instead of the iq, say i think my cabinet is great, encourage congress to confirm them quickly. hasn't done this so far. tomorrow might be last chance to get off to running start with the broader public. after tomorrow pomp and circumstance fades away and just governing and people judge him on that. >> emily, you're paying attention to the family. as they're sitting there, what do you think is the reaction? they've said don't go on twitter so much, be more presidential. they're in the room, do you think they're okay with it. >> demeanor of the children is the way the president-elect should behave, they seemed sobered by what is going on and in awe as most president-elects
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would be. taking in the magnitude of the day and appreciating what it is and where it fits in history and i think their father could take a lesson from their behavior. >> as i said to somebody earlier, he won. people didn't think he was going to. maybe give him breathing room to say i did this. or is the time over? >> it's over. when he gave the speech day after election day at 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning delivered a very grown-up speech i have to say for donald trump. we walked away thinking he turned the corner but to david's point, trips himself up. >> sore winner? >> talked to one of his close friends about it, biggest weakness? he always has to win. when he leaves room has to feel he won.
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and clearly doesn't feel he won because people will be protesting inauguration tomorrow and that gets under his skin. he wants everyone to look at him and say he's the one. >> he talked about crowds. there are always crowds and concerts, he's not the first to do it. >> and another thing he doesn't understand, this will make supporters angry but he thinks it's true. he thinks can bully washington and washington will bow down to him. it's never going to happen. washington is institution, it has its ways to good or bad, not going to be a situation where he can keep bullying. people are going to stand their ground talking about journalists or republican or democratic party. he has a lot of people he tries to bully. >> talked about journalists tonight and spoke about his family. discuss all of that when we come
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i want to start with you emily. saw the first family at various events tonight. donald trump talked about them a short while ago. >> we actually have a very, very good family. we have a family that gets along. my sons, look at them standing there, i say why aren't you campaigning today? eric and don and tiffany who was incredible. and baron is home. we had a great group of people. we worked hard. i want to thank everybody. we're going to have four incredible years, it's going to be something special. we have in the audience a special person who has worked very hard, who married very
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well, it's my daughter ivanka, where is she? i sort of stole her husband. he's so great. >> he stole her husband. he had some really funny lines in that. how much is he going to rely on his family? >> he values family loyalty so much having two adult sons running business while he's in washington, son-in-law in the west wing running any myriad of things. has daughter moving to washington to effect change on issues relating to women and families. if that's not indication how much he relies on children professionally in business life and washington life, i don't know what will. part of every facet of his life. >> emily and i rode over in
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traffic as we were watching the speech. you saw something i did too at ceremonies, ivanka and jared sitting in the front row with him. >> could have been just the seating arrangement but says something that ivanka, jared, m melania and -- sitting in the front and brothers behind them. >> i think should be watching who is sitting where in the west wing. is jared next to the oval office? upstairs? makes a difference. >> there are 4,000 jobs that have to be filled. spicer says 536 transition people reporting to work on monday, some stay. who is going to run the country i guess tomorrow after a certain time. are they ready?
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>> i don't think they're totally ready. ramping up. one, there was transition in the transition early on. chris christie and his team, switched to pence team and slowed down and had trouble selecting and getting cabinet and subcabinet level people through. i think quickly see people in position, but behind where they should be. >> of the key 15 cabinet posts, 13 of the nominees are white, ten of the 15 never held political office. sean spicer defended those choices today. >> number one thing is is he hiring best and brightest? people committed to enacting real change, respecting tax payers? what you're going to see is diversity in gender, thinking and ideology, it's not just
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about skin color or ethic heritage. >> so is so little diversity a problem? >> sure. it's a cabinet that doesn't look like america. i don't think it's a political problem for him that's going to be a major distraction, but it's a problem in the sense that sean spicer doesn't have a good answer there. i think that he was searching for other ways to show diversity. simple fact, just put up numbers. this is a cabinet the least diverse since reagan's cabinet at a time when the country is becoming more diverse. those are just simple facts. >> and you can have the best and brightest and have racial, emgic gender and -- diversity. >> the problem for trump, the people who elected him, this reflects that coalition.
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overwhelmingly white males. not as many women as would see in another cabinet is reflective of the type of people who voted him in. pool he has to choose from. doesn't make it okay but raises question. >> raises the question are you governing the electorate that sent you there or the whole country. >> there's a fair amount of social science research now that shows if a company is more diverse, more women on the board in the company, more minorities, the company actually performs better. helps to make you best and brightest if you have more diversity. to reject that says i don't care about that, just putting in place people like me. >> i wonder if the trump people are looking at notes -- look at legacy, long arc of history, history won't mark certain
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things but will mark if you have a diverse cabinet, grace and class you handle yourself with, how you made the transition. all those things will be marked and little things, reaching out to your base, history won't judge you well for that. wonder if he's thinking about th that. >> i don't think he is. we're a multicultural country now and what is stark, barack obama, first african-american president who did so much, two women to the supreme court, fought for diversity, the differences are extreme between the two. and rambling donald trump, barack obama would never have done that, we're not used to that. watch obama's mind work, see him typing out specific words. and donald trump plays on spontaneity, some americans like
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>> back now live from washington as the nation prepares for inauguration of a new president. outcoming president barack obama spending final night in the white house. back with me now the bright political team. i think you have the highest iq -- >> highest since the last team. >> start with you. president obama says he's proud to be first administration in
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recent history to not have a scandal. why? and by the way he had to as the first african-american president. >> part of it is luck. there's 4,000 positions in the government, lucky if somebody doesn't do something wrong but something to be said about the character you bring into the office and people you surround yourself with. barack obama came in with high expectations and surrounded himself with smart and intelligent people and if you do that and lead by example be scandal-free or not tarnished by many scandals. notch on his belt. >> put nick kristof's quote up. we want our children and world to admire our president and that is where obama is strongest and
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trump weakest and goes on to say be more appreciative of first family set impeccable standard for all the world. that's high standard. can the trump administration hold it? >> no. its hard to set that standard. in my mind like dwight eisenhower, almost unimpeachable, governed with such honesty and integrity and leaving with 60% we keep talking about and growing reputation and legacy of eight scandal-free years will look harder in history. already looking at bog of what will happen in the first days of the donald trump presidency. when you rank on ethical standards barack obama is highest, up with some of the great american leaders. >> and you look -- i don't know if it's stage craft or crafted,
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but the barack obama image, and no scandals, look at picture first lady tweeted today looking out south lawn at monument and consider president-elect trump writing inaugural address at desk at mar-a-lago. requires image. can you compare the two? >> stage craft is important part but it's too soon to judge exactly how he'll be as president. >> he's not in office yet. >> can look at nominees and business dealings and ethical questions and way he deals with things saying as long as it's legal doesn't talk about whether it's ethical. different from barack obama but you're right, barack obama was very affair and his wife very aware, first african-american couple in the white house and they had to be almost perfect. i think that trump operates with a little more entitlement
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frankly. >> that's my point asking about history. you have to be aware of history as president and i think the obamas were very aware how history would judge them and how it would look. >> and conscious of how they presented themselves as african-american family. look at christmas photos look like norman rockwell painting but fact it's african-american family sends out message, positive message to the entire world. they cultivated that. >> every president, early days define you. then the early days and last days but you have to be careful about the early days. >> i think you're right. >> sets the tone. >> so if you stumble out of the gate and can't get a victory up there, that sets you behind. and frankly that's why donald trump coming in actually has
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extra burden now because he's not coming in with wind at his back and honeymoon but coming in with a divided country and low approval rating because he squandered the opportunity in the transition. now the job is not so much take all the good will and do something with it, instead it's take the position and prove that i belong here. task is immediately on him to prove back to the country he can be a good president. >> what about obamacare? because matt lewis i think makes a point. only reason we as country and our lawmakers are able to have this discussion about the government providing health care for people is obamacare passed. whether you like it or not or it's good legislation or not we're having that conversation. >> i think that's true absolutely. i don't believe the republicans would have the urgency to
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provide a national health care plan if not for the obamacare. going back to the point, the challenge tomorrow may be this, he needs to give a speech which is uniting, reaches out to all americans. but later in the afternoon he's going to go back and start signing executive orders to carry out his pledges and some will be highly controversial, reuters reported that president is essentially going to phase out dreamers program, daca, that's enormously stressful within college campuses in the country. 750,000 young people came here young with undocumented parents and if they get thrown out, going to be a big, big deal if he does that. and other things moving embassy to jerusalem, saying going to do that again.
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>> that's got to be the last. blame the other 20 people on the panel. thank you all. appreciate it. up next, a big moment for trump supporters. do they like what they see? and there's the motorcade, donald trump's motorcade leaving. it's right behind us in the big picture window and see the motorcade going past the capitol here in washington, d.c. donald trump will be president in less than 14 hours. sworn in as 45th president of the united states, making his way through washington, d.c., back to blair house. be right back. the world is full of surprising moments. they're everywhere. and as a marriot rewards member,
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tonight. discuss with my panel, author, and larry noble. >> i was on at 4:00. >> you're troopers. thanks for joining us. tomorrow is the big day. been out speaking to trump supporters. are they excited? >> a wide variety of people, i saw families, choir group break out in a capella, young people, moving. and people who didn't support him but came from from their towns. gentleman from erie and his wife. he's african-american, didn't support trump but runs a youth group and wanted to send right message home by coming to experience it and bringing
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couple of kids with him to show areas to move forward. >> it's interesting you say that. i spoke to people who weren't trump supporters and some are hotel rooms because hillary clinton supporters but here for the inauguration because they want to see the transition of power. >> good. >> yeah. >> that's great for the country. i think more people believe that -- want it to be positive, even if they have personal resentments. you always want the country to do better. let's talk about some of the people who may not have been donald trump supporters and some who came to him. talked to michigan lawyer who came in later in the game. second thoughts. i'm hoping that trump begins to speak and act like intelligent businessman that i'm sure it is, and he stops tweeting like 13-year-old boy and starts acting like adult.
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talking to trump supporters say the same thing. want him to stop tweeting. is that a red flag for donald trump? >> it could be if he continues to tweet and do the things he's been doing. but i always think folks will give a long leash. won't like the tweeting but stick by their man for now. suspicion is going to take a long time for that behavior to wear thin with the core supporters. >> he's a businessman, chosen a nufb billionaire business people for his cabinet. are they okay with that? >> ran on the idea of draining swamp and nominated business people, people you think of as denizens of the swamp. it's a good question about how they react. especially when we start seeing the proposals and deregulatory effort. if looks like trying to help their own interests, i think
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people will have issues. >> do you see ethics issues with the nominees? >> a number of them. starting with scott pruitt, attorney general of oklahoma and running epa and has spearheaded lawsuits against the epa which are still ongoing and he will be head of agency where he gets to settle the lawsuits. he has ethics agreement that requires for a year stay out of these but can ask for waiver and deal with it. most people in business wouldn't like that. >> chairman of trump's inaugural committee. >> look at cabinet selections. people criticizing saying all billionaires or only successful people. and i say would you like him to have unsuccessful people? if we're having cardiac surgery, go to the best surgeon in the world or going into a world
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prefer to have a general, general mattis than a west point cadet. that's what happened. >> so that may be true but in other cases these people have very little or no government experience, especially in the particular area where they're supposed to be experts. what do you think of these? >> i think that's part of the appeal, they don't have government experience. you say drain the swamp and say there's billionaires but people don't think the same way we do. don't think because you're billionaire you're part of the washington establishment. you're successful outside of washington in your own business, so they look at these people like he just said as experts. >> but they're part of the wall street he rallied against. especially goldman sachs who he hit hard. >> the swamp part for people as i understood it during the
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election was washington, bureaucracy, the crux for them. >> i think there's a real difference between people who take advantage of the unfair rules and unfair rules themselves. sense i've always gotten from trump's core voters not mad of the billionaires for taking advantage of the rules but that the rules exist in the first place. we're mad it's legal to store the money. >> don't hate the player, hate the game. >> exactly. >> but a lot of these rules exist because these people or their companies lobbied for them, they wanted these rules in place. >> talked about -- and mnuchin failed to disclose assets and has other issues. that's another choice. going to continue to discuss this after the break. don't go anywhere.
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it is such a beautiful evening in washington. look at capitol. >> so gorgeous.
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>> i'm here with my panel. discussing the president-elect's cabinet picks among other things. can't get over that shot. so gorgeous. talking about steven mnuchin, donald trump has one of the wealthiest people in the world for kabt. he failed to disclose $1 million in assets and investment fund in the kaimen islands. chuck schumer said it -- i'm sorry. read this. failure to disclose his cayman island holdings just reeks of the swamp that the president-elect promised to drain on the campaign trail. do you agree and do you think the supporters will look at it that way? >> looks bad.
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my suspicion is it's a mistake. not like someone else found it. he came back and said i forgot to disclose. optics are not good. not be happy but given where we are, doubt donald trump supporters will rise up to reverse the appointment. >> do you think it's honest oversight and something that people should think about before appointed to government? >> i think it is something they need to think about. i don't know if honest oversight. he did say the forms are complicated and hard to fill out. if you feel that way, maybe you don't want to be secretary of the treasury because it's complicated position. but it does show an attitude towards government i'm afraid, doesn't take it seriously united kingdom t-- take the ethics ruls
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cir seriously and i think the voters will give leeway at beginning but if this is the attitude you have to be concerned and same with the other appointees, i know business, i can do government. that's not necessarily true. two different things. >> and just because not of washington, not expert. want people not expertsment doesn't always work out. some instances might. there are a lot of anecdotes of people with homes foreclosed on by mnuchin's bank. one woman sued after 27 cents short on mortgage payment. how does this play in trump supporter country? >> he went into great detail about that. how he tried to work with i think hud, i think. and they were going to fine him
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if he tried to pursue and negate the fines. he was explaining there were fines for $1.08 and 27 cents. optics do not help. does that hurt him get in. no. he's going to get in. i will say that i think if you're going to be in the minority, i think chuck schumer is having the best time ever. never seen anyone enjoy and r reli relish -- and he's doing a great job as minority leader, aggressive aggressively defining what the progressive agenda a is and nicking the nominees. >> regardless if you like that, it's good that tough questions are asked. and to vet them as donald trump says veem vetting.
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