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hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. donald trump is moving at speed. on monday he pulled out of a major international trade deal. on tuesday he resurrected plans for two controversial oil pipelines. today — well, where to start? perhaps with the wall. he is seeking to fundamentally change homeric operates and fits into our world. the still happening. i would say i'm certainly planning on starting immediately. the president's also said he approves of waterboarding, that he may send federal agents into cities that can't control crime, that some federal agencies can't communicate with the press, that he looks set to severely restrict immigration from certain countries. there are reports in us media that the president intends to drastically reduce the role of the us at the un, and he supports the creation of safe zones for civilians inside syria. they would require someone‘s troops on the ground. plus this is how he'll deal with illegal immigration from mexico. we are going to get the bad ones
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out, the criminals and the drug dealers and the gangs and gang members and cartel leaders. across the hour we will cover every development in the us. if you have questions and, my goodness, i think we all do, the hashtag is #bbcos, you can e—mail or find we all do, the hashtag is #bbcos, you can e—mail orfind me on social media. we will answer your questions across the hour. it isa it is a measure of how extraordinary todayis it is a measure of how extraordinary today is that when the president of america announces a major investigation into voter fraud, voter fraud investigation into voter fraud, voterfraud for which investigation into voter fraud, voter fraud for which there is no evidence whatsoever, it is ranking about nine four tenths in the most significant developments of the day. across the hour, anthony zurcher
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will be live from washington, dc. we have not seen many days like this? it is pretty remarkable and the challenge is to try to draw the line between what trump is tweeting, saying during interviews and speeches and the actual executive action is getting documents on so we can see what is actually taking place as far as policy. that is the challenge, you will help us meet it. and thiney is here, if you have questions, #bbcos is the hashtag. we will go through the issues one by one, starting with immigration. donald trump always promised action on immigration. and he's being good to his word. he's signed an executive order to build a wall on the us—mexico border. there are elements of a wall on that border already but he wants one that goes the full distance. and his plan is that mexico will pick up the cost. here's donald trump in an interview he's just done with the abc news. are you going to direct us funds to
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pay for this wall, with american taxpayers pay for the wall? ultimately it will come out of what has happened with mexico, we will stop those negotiations relatively soon and be formally reimbursed by mexico. they will pay us back? 100%. is mexico. they will pay us back? 10096. is the american taxpayer will pay out first? we will be reimbursed later from whatever transaction we make with mexico. mexico's president said that mexico absolutely will not pay, adding that it goes against our dignity as a country and as mexicans. but he has to say that. i am just telling you there will be a payment, it will be in a form, perhaps a complicated form, you have to understand that what i am doing is good for the united states, it will also be good for mexico. we wa nt will also be good for mexico. we want a very stable and solid mexico. went as construction begin? sooner is we physically can. within months?
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i would say so, planning on starting immediately. hours later he was at the department of homeland security outlining his plans in more detail toa outlining his plans in more detail to a packed audience. the secretary of homeland security, working with myself and my stuff, will begin immediate construction of a border wall. —— working with myself and my staff. applause we are going to get the bad ones out. the criminals and the drug dealers and gangs and gang members and cartel leaders. the day is over when they can stay in our country and recover, we are going to get them out and get them out fast, and john kerry is going to lead that. let's bring in anthony in washington, presumably the idea is
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that the war itself will get the bad ones out, it is part of a broader package of policies? —— the idea is that the wall itself. the god he talks about ending catch and release, people come over the border and are not formally deported. talking about cracking down on sanctuary cities, us municipalities, more than 200 of them across the country, major cities like los angeles, seattle, new york city, washington and boston turned —— boston and washington, dc, they don't ask for immigration status from people living within their borders. the trump administration says they will deny federal funds to cities with these policies unless they change, that is a marked change from past president. and boosted immigration funding or customs and enforcement, the hiring of new immigration officers, across—the—board spending immigration officers, across—the—boa rd spending and immigration officers, across—the—board spending and focus on rounding people up along the
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borders and sending them back and being more diligent about processing people who have already been brought into the law enforcement and immigration system. lots of questions coming in already, one from if you are in the netherlands wanting you to answer what is an executive order and how much power does it have? an executive order is a unilateral use of presidential power, they are kept track of by numbers, signed by the president, printed in the federal register, they have binding power of law over executive agencies, they are different than laws passed by congress which have more broad powers not just over the congress which have more broad powers notjust over the way executive agencies behave but all branches of the federal government, there are different levels of presidential authority, a presidential authority, a presidential declaration is the highest, and executive order is next, a memorandum which does not have to be published if slightly lower, directives are lower. lots of
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it is almost non—mature, a way of organising them and resolving conflicts between them, but presidents recently, particularly george dubya bush and barack obama, have relied heavily on executive action when trying to get policies implemented that congress is not willing to turn into permanent law. andreu in the uk says don't executive orders have to be sanctioned by congress or the senate oi’ sanctioned by congress or the senate or the judiciary? no. sanctioned by congress or the senate or thejudiciary? no. executive orders are done by the president and don't require any oversight or sanctioning from other bodies. don't go anywhere, you will be with his across the hour. keep the questions coming, #bbcos is the hashtag, the e—mail is then asks what the estimated cost of the war will be, mrtrump what the estimated cost of the war will be, mr trump is putting between $8 billion and $10 billion, he says
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that mexico will pay back in time. absent surprisingly the mexican president is not very clean on that idea. —— perhaps not surprisingly. "it is evident that we have some differences with the new government of the united states, like the topic of the wall that mexico, of course, will not pay." we have a corresponding to mexico city, | we have a corresponding to mexico city, i spoke to him earlier. in fa ct, city, i spoke to him earlier. in fact, he is he alive, i thought i was going to be playing one of your reports, and here you are, that is great. tellers about how the mexican government is indicating it will play this challenge? i think you made the point that the mexican president and his whole cabinet, and a very large portion of this country, are on one single message to mr trump, they will not pay for this wall, not at the time of construction or in the future. there is a very serious conflict to
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be resolved. obviously mr trump has suggested that federal funds united states will be used initially and they will somehow be reimbursed later, exactly how was still to be defined, whether there is some sort of border tax or what he has in mind, we do not know. wherever you look, the presidential palace, the factory shop floor, workers on the streets in mexico city, on the border region itself, people are really with one voice, as far as i have seen, they reject this policy not just as have seen, they reject this policy notjust as aimed towards them and splitting up families and stopping people coming across the border, but many people going as far as to call ita many people going as far as to call it a racist and xenophobic. we have a question from lynette watching on the bbc news channel, if mexico was forced to pay for this, make it pivot away to russia and china to seek further economic ties, oi’ china to seek further economic ties, orare china to seek further economic ties, or are mexico and the us too closely
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intertwined? that is interesting, everything is happening at once, we also have the nafta trade agreement, the north american free trade agreement, mr trump said the north american free trade agreement, mrtrump said he the north american free trade agreement, mr trump said he will effectively rip that up or at the very least we negotiate. mexico says they would be prepared to walk away from the agreement if it was no longer favourable to mexico's needs and terms. at the same time the united states is walking away from the transpacific free—trade agreement which might open up things for china. the whole trade relationship between mexico and the united states is sorted up for grabs at the moment. that said, it is one of the most long—lasting and solid relationships in latin america, and what i was gaining in understanding from what mr trump said was that the united states continues to want to see a strong mexican economy and that somehow the wall will benefit mexico in those terms. it is still
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very, very early days but there is a lot to be negotiated. thank you very much. one question said perhaps the mexicans will refuse, what will happen then, but what donald trump has said and what will was saying is that he wants to look at the interrogation ship between mexico and the us, including trade and the wall, and any cost of the wall will be built into the negotiations and warned that the deal might be complicated. the white house also announced today that they would cut funding to sanctuary cities. these are american cities, counties or states that protect undocumented immigrants from deportation by limiting cooperation with federal immigration authorities. seattle, los angeles and san francisco as well as chicago, new orleans and new york. these cities are all on the list. two days after mr trump won
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the election, new york's mayor said, "we are not going to sacrifice a half—million people who live amongst us, who are part of our communities. we're not going to tear families apart." let's bring anthony zurcher back—in, the president said it was not about tearing apart communities but dealing with illegal immigration, presumably? two decidedly different ways of looking at this issue. republicans in the past and up through donald trump have seen this as major urban cities, often varied many of them are left—leaning, thumbing their nose at the federal government and subverting their effo rts government and subverting their efforts at law—enforcement. this cities look at it as a way of taking ca re of cities look at it as a way of taking care of people within their borders, if there are people who do not have normalised immigration status does not mean that they can't get government services or will not benefit from education, if they somehowjust benefit from education, if they somehow just flat—out benefit from education, if they
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somehowjust flat—out denied the services to people within their borders there all sorts of compensating factors that could make things even more difficult for the cities to manage. it is setting up a conflict the trump administration and some powerful cities throughout the country, and it is helping to divide this country again on political terms because, as you may have noticed, lots of the cities in california, new york, washington and illinois, those states went for hillary clinton are not donald trump. two more questions, they'll is in kenny and says canet president rousseff and the previous executive order? —— bill is watching in kenya and says can a president rescinds a previous executive order. yes, one of the first things that donald trump reinstated after obama rescinded it was to do with
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educational groups that might mention abortion. the thing about executive actions as they are only good as long as a president as it is in power, somebody else can come in and change them, they do not have the written power of law. there is a real fascination with this issue, one more tweets coming in from will watching on the bbc news channel in the uk, if the president can sign as many executive orders as he wants, does this not create a dictatorship and a threat to us democracy? that was a criticism, ironically enough, launched by conservatives against barack obama. he used executive orders to defer deportation for children, undocumented children who had come into the country and stayed here, and lots of conservatives said it was a broad overreach of presidential power. now you see it on the other side, donald trump
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using his executive authority to change immigration rules and you hearan change immigration rules and you hear an outcry from the left. there seems to be a pretty substantial ground for justification for the president using this power, it has been challenged in court and a pelt before, but it is an expansion of presidential power and many are not happy and would much prefer to see the sorts of policies going through congress the way they say this government was devised. anthony zurcher, live with us from the bbc newsroom in washington, dc. he will be with this across the hour, we are spending the whole hour talking about the trump administration because it is moving at huge speed and changing facets of how america operates within its border but also how america fits into the world. your questions are very welcome, we will do our best to answer them. #bbcos is the hashtag, my social media contacts and i e—mail address are on screen. stay with us, i will
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be back in a moment. theresa may says the government will publish a white paper on its plans for leaving the european union. some conservative members had joined labour in asking herfor a detailed policy document on brexit after yesterday's supreme court judgment that the government had to consult parliament before invoking article 50. mrs may surprised mps when she made the announcement at prime minister's questions this afternoon. we will ensure that parliament has every opportunity to provide that scrutiny on this issue as we go through this process, but i recognise i set out that bold plan for a global britain last week and directly lies there is an appetite in this house to see that set out in a white paper. the question from my honourable friend the member from brock still last week in the same vein, ican brock still last week in the same vein, i can confirm to the house that the plan will be set out in a white paper published in this house. this is outside source live
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from the bbc newsroom. our lead story is donald trump has signed executive orders launching plans to build a wall on the us—mexico border and limiting funds to cities that protect illegal immigrants. we are talking about a number of stories, there have been a number of significant developments involving the trump administration. earlier we talked about mr trump saying he would get on with building the border wall between america and us, he has changed the way that sanctuary cities operate, these are cities that don't necessarily cooperate with federal agencies looking at immigration, mr trump wa nts to looking at immigration, mr trump wants to change that. then this story which the new york times is running, an article that
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claims, the bbc is not able to confirm, that the trump administration is preparing executive orders that would drastically reduce the us role in the united nations and other international organisations. let's go back to anthony live in washington, dc. is anybody else backing up this new york times article? that is the only report i have seen at the moment but it doesn't surprise me given the level of rhetoric coming out of the trump administration and trump on the campaign trail directed towards international organisations and the un, which has attracted a particular amount of scorn from conservative circles when the security council had their resolution condemning israel for its involvement in the occupied territories, so i think this reflects that. nonetheless, if this happened, and i don't mean to be melodramatic, it would fundamentally reshape the way that all the major international bodies in the world work, wouldn't
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it? the us is central to them at the moment. un bashing is nothing new among republicans, i remember ronald reagan made comments about the un at the time, it was not followed by action. we will have to wait and see exactly what the details, the para meters exactly what the details, the parameters of what the trump administration is proposing, if it is merely reducing us funds going to the un that is nothing particularly new, republican governments have done that before, drastically cutting back support for environmental issues and various other causes in the un urges the overalljuice other causes in the un urges the overall juice that the other causes in the un urges the overalljuice that the us is meant to pay, but if it is something more than that then it would be a significant change, we have never seen republican administrations talked down the north atlantic treaty organisation in the past, thatis treaty organisation in the past, that is definitely knew. stay with us, we will play a couple of reports
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and come back to you, more and more and comerbackrte—yeu, morerand more? are coming in, if you want questions are coming in, if you want to find anthony zurcher online, that is his name on twitter, and we all using the #bbcos hashtag if you want to exchange information and answer questions. let's get some more detail now on sanctuary cities. the bbc‘s franz strasser has been finding out more about them we will end the sanctuary cities, cities that refuse to cooperate with federal authorities will not receive taxpayer dollars. we're not going to be by federal policy that has us compromise values that we know are very defining for our community. what is a sanctuary city? all it means is that when a president comes in contact with local law enforcement, he will not be asked about his legal status and the local
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jail won't hold undocumented immigrants for deportation proceedings unless they regard them as violent criminals. despite threats of funding cuts by donald trump, major us cities have already come out in favour of remaining sanctuaries. they represent a quarter of all undocumented residents in the us. and if they don't cooperate, it will be hard for the president—elect to enforce his deportation plan. i want you to know your city will stand by you and protect you every step of the way. at the root of this debate are the values of santa fe, they are values that have been in place since the earliest days more than 400 years ago. with14% of our population being made up of immigrants, we can't afford to lose them back into the shadows all to see them leave our community, because we rely on them showing up day in, day out, to
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provide critical services to our community. my childrens are american citizens, andl my childrens are american citizens, and i am not. and that worries me a lot because we could be separated. this woman entered the country illegally with her parents as a child. an executive order by president obama in 2012 gave the temporary legal status, a place in nursing school and a job at the hospital. yet, i have a betterjob, my kids have a better quality—of—life, we have better quality—of—life. we were thinking about buying a house. yeah, because i feel safe, i don't about buying a house. yeah, because ifeel safe, i don't feel a great —— afraid. that executive order, along with city century status, is under threat. my fear is that i will not feel free any more, i will not feel confident to buy house, what will happen after that? people will start working again like back then, cleaning houses, yard work,
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construction. without licence. critics of sanctuary cities say they shield criminals from being detected by federal authorities and put residents in danger. people who are here to work and work hard, i don't think they will be affected by any of the sweeping changes, it is more about the drug cartels. we have a massive drug problem in new mexico. when it comes to the murder rate, santa fe says quite well against similar sized cities actively cooperating with the immigration and for smit agency. sa nta immigration and for smit agency. santa fe's mayor says that while the city has always pursued violent criminals, it will not use local police to enforce sweeping deportation plans. we need law enforcement to focus on combating crime which can be hurtful to citizens, not being deportation agents of the federal policy seeking to destroy families and hurt people. we are looking at the trump
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administration today and the many new policies it is bringing in. this is what has happened to the dow jones. the major business story of the day — the dowjones hit 20,000 today. it should come as no surprise. the dowjones had been gaining value since the election of donald trump. it went from just under 18,000 when he was elected to 20,000 today. let's get more on this from samira hussain. what should we see the dowjones as? what should we see the dowjones as? what does it represent? it is looking at a grouping of the biggest us companies and how they are trading. really what this signifies is it has crossed this milestone of going above 20,000 points. does it really represent something significant? in a way, not really, it is just significant? in a way, not really, it isjust a significant? in a way, not really, it is just a nice significant? in a way, not really, it isjust a nice really significant? in a way, not really, it is just a nice really round number that people can wrap their heads around. it communicates a few things with regard to investor sentiment and i think you highlighted that when you mentioned the fact that we have seen markets
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skyrocketed since the election of donald trump. with a lot of the executive orders that we have seen mrtrump signing in executive orders that we have seen mr trump signing in the last few days, it is a sign for wall street and investors that he will be making good on some of the promises he has major in the election campaign. some of the things that people on wall street are really concerned about our regulations, and he wants to see the rollback of some of the banking regulations that have come into place and the reforms of some of america's tax codes. based on some of the things we have seen in the first few days of his administration it seems like there could be likely. we appreciated. in the second half of the programme we will be live on the washington newsroom and the state department. keep your questions coming, we will get you plenty of answers. thank you forjoining me and welcome
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to our latest update on a number of stories from around the world that have caught my eye within the past 24 hours or so. we will spin you towards california, where they had a tempestuous weekend with a number of fertility is reported, i'm afraid to say, simply because we have seen a succession of low pressure systems moving from the pacific and continue north and eastwards —— with a number of fatalities reported. that moves across canada and the northern states of the usa, which is why we have seen a conversion of brain into freezing rain or snow, there has been very strong wind in the circulation of those ). as these things are settling down in the short term, the rain has had a beneficial effect in that such a wet january has delivered as much rain as we would expect to see the whole of the year, the snowpack in the sierra nevada is well above average, locking up moisture for next summer, but the rainfall deficit is still some 50 centimetres below where we should be the moment.
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this was the picture injanuary 2016, the darker the colour the more intense the drought. this is the current situation, so all that weather has improved the drought situation, officialfigures are wrote on thursday and we will of course update you. coming further south we could really do with it at the moment, towards the south of santiago, much of central chilly has been affected by wildfires. for meaningful rain, you have to go north and east. spinning towards asia, we have seen an awful lot of rain, far too much in the wet season through the malay peninsula, flooding episodes in thailand in recent weeks and malaysia, and though you can see the southern islands of the philippines at the moment we might see a return to wet weather even here. across the middle east, combination of disturbed weather but
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increasingly cold weather taking you through the weekend. the temperatures across the northern pa rt temperatures across the northern part of the middle east begin to tumble. several degrees what we would expect to see at this time of year —— several degrees below what we would expect. the low pressure is gradually working its way ever further east, allowing a run of cold and macro to run out of the western side of russia, never particularly warm at this time of year, gradually floating down towards the black sea, on through turkey, into the eastern mediterranean towards the middle east. the heart of the continent has been dominated by high pressure in recent days, it is gradually drifting further east and we will seek frontal systems migrating towards the british isles and across siberia. four deg only in london, for the rest of you, helen willetts has the details in a few minutes. hello, i'm ros atkins, this is outside source. let's look through some of the main stories here in the bbc newsroom. donald trump has signed into action orders to build his wall and limit funds to cities that protect illegal
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immigrants, and says building will begin in months. i would say in months, i am planning to start immediately. we'll also be picking apart what donald trump's latest policies means for abortion, the environment and immigration from the middle east and north africa. we have a lot to get through. a lot to get through — if you want to get in touch, #bbcos is where to go.
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